[Avodah] R' Angel & Geirus Redux

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Sun Mar 23 16:23:30 PDT 2008


As I see it, here is the basic problem...

If TsN is defined entirely in terms of information, then a product of
non-O education was exposre to enough Torah, they would be koferim.

However, if someone looks at TsN in terms of intuitive sense of guilt,
then motivation becomes a factor. Someone who knows much Torah, but all
their education came from sources that important it along with an anti-
bias, it very difficult to justify assigning guilt to their choice.

The CI's qulah presumes the latter definition, FWIW.

The JTSA alumnus knows enough Torah to normally not be considered a
TsN. But learned it in a milieau where Document Hypothesis, denial of
Torah miSinai, and distortion of the halachic process are the norm.

The question RMM wrote on Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 08:04pm IST becomes
compelling:
: So Reb Moshe says they are kofrim, and one might say that they are
: b'shogeg, but Reb Moshe would retort that since they know shomrei
: Torah u'Mitzvot, they ought to know the Torah is true.
: Such words I find absolutely astounding...

Tir'u baTov!
-Micha

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