[Avodah] O attend R wedding = kosher eidim?

[Micha Berger]

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:28:23PM +0200, Michael Makovi wrote:
: Therefore, I said that according to Tosafot, an O at an R wedding is
: no problem, because all the Rs in the vicinity will pasul him. And
: according to the other opinion, since the designated eidim are R, the
: Os in the vicinity don't matter.

I think REMT cleared this up, but I already planned on writing the
following which (although less erudite) explains each side's resolution
to the problem of O Jews at an R wedding:

According to rov rishonim, there is no problem as the eidei qiyum were
picked, and presumably they weren't the O guests.

According to the baalei Tosafos, the problem is bigger, but avoidable
-- make sure BD never only ask the O guests to testify without a pisul
le'eidus as well.

Because you thought that Tosafos would have a lesser problem, whereas
I am suggesting their problem is greater, you thought I was switching
their positions.

: My solution to agunot, viz. grill the designated witnesses, would thus
: seem to fit with the non-Tosafot opinion of designated witnesses.

WRT the agunah problem, why not interview two brothers and thereby
invalidate the kat eidim without impossibly difficult grilling?

I feel sure there is something I'm about to kick myself for missing.

:-)BBii!
-Micha

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