[Avodah] Not Making Kiddush Between 6 p.m. and 7 p.m.

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Wed Feb 6 15:04:22 PST 2008


On Wed, February 6, 2008 1:32 pm, R Zev Sero wrote:
:> A couple of us were once invited to a shtiebl to run a singing
:> minyan
:> for Qabbalas Shabbos and Maariv. The rav was getting antsy at a few
:> minutes to 6 EDT

: EDT?  That's Summer Time, right?  He was observing this minhag
: according to Summer Time?

I should have typed "EST", it was winter time. Said rav doesn't daven
minchah before 7 in the summer. And IIRC, he keeps this custom at 7
EDT, only 6 EST.

My point was about the impossibility of Chazal assuming timezones.
:                                                In any case, in the
: Greater NYC area the adjustment due to Railroad time is 4 minutes, so
: mean noon is at 11:56, and the "correct" hour of Mars is 5:56 to 6:56.
: (In the eastern reaches of Queens it's 5 minutes, while in parts west
: of Elizabeth it's 3 minutes.)

And even assuming the 6th standard hour after noon, one would need to
also correct for the equation of time (a/k/a the analemma, the drift
of noon as the year progresses; see
<http://www.analemma.com/Pages/framesPage.html> for an animated
explanation).

I don't see how a maamar that old would presume an average noon.

OTOH, RMF holds WRT zeman minchah that chatzos is an average noon. So
maybe...

SheTir'u baTov!
-micha

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