[Avodah] manipulating bodily energies

[T613K at aol.com]

R' Zev Sero wrote:
>>This is moreshes avosenu<<
 
and R' Richard Wolpoe _rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com_ 
(mailto:rabbirichwolpoe at gmail.com)  wrote:


>>When Moishe Rabbeinu came down from the mountain the Egel was  minhag 
Yisroel
And so was the Egel Minhag for 10 Sevatim after  Yerav'am
And was AZA prevalent in the during the late of Bayyis  Rishon....
 
 

...So are you REALLY saying is that any superstition that violates  Tamim
tihyeh im Hashem Elokecha is OK so long as it is  popular?<<

-- 
Kol Tuv / Best  Regards,
RabbiRichWolpoe at Gmail.com
see:  http://nishmablog.blogspot.com/




>>>>>
Are you seriously trying to claim that davening at  Kever Rochel or singing 
Sholom Aleichem is the same as the egel or the A'Z  temple of Yeravam?!  That 
is quite a stretch.  If the debate here is  over normative Judaism, it is 
certainly RRW and not RZS who is taking the  radical position.  (The question of 
davening to the Rebbe /instead of/  davening to Hashem is a far more serious 
problem, and on that point RRW may  well be correct.)   But saying at a tzaddik's 
kever  "Please be a meilitz yosher for us" is /not/ A'Z.  "Kol beramah  
nishma, Rochel mevaka al baneha" establishes the principle that tzaddikim can  ask 
Hashem for rachamim for their children -- even after said tzaddikim have  left 
this world.  Asking them, "Go to Father and plead for us" is not  A'Z.  
Asking the malachim to give you a bracha is likewise not A'Z, any  more than asking 
any person for a bracha is A'Z.  "Al tehi birchas hedyot  kal be'einecha" 
means ordinary people can bentsh other people, and  certainly malachim can. If a 
person can bentsh another person, what is to say  you can't actually ask for a 
bracha?    It is still up to Hashem  to fulfill the bracha.
 
PS Despite the thread subject, I do not believe in kinesiology, iridology,  
homeopathy et al.  They may not be A'Z but it is a separate mitzva, very  well 
known, for a Jew to have seichel.

--Toby  Katz
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