[Avodah] kinetic healing and halacha

[Liron Kopinsky]

I might be mistaken, but I think the Sefer Hachinuch defines Kishuf as the
mixing of different physical components in such a way that they create an
effect in heaven. Since every object on this world has a spiritual
counterpart in shamayim, "playing" with physical objects in certain ways
mixes up their spiritual mirror as well.

With this definition it seems more likely that pharmacology would be more
likely Kishuf than any form of pseudo-science.

As a side note, I have an uncle who (I might add is very scientifically
minded and) had some back problems which just wouldn't go away. I don't
remember the exact story but through some chain of events (he knew someone
who knew someone who had met this guy or something) he ended up going to
this really quack of an alternative-medicine-guy, who made his problems go
away almost entirely in just 2 or 3 sessions, so there is something to it,
even if it's just the placebo effect.

~Liron

On Jan 8, 2008 5:21 PM, Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 08, 2008 at 06:42:58PM -0500, Moshe Y. Gluck wrote:
> : Could your relative have been talking about applied kinesiology?
> : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applied_kinesiology As far as I can tell,
> it
> : isn't Kishuf, for the simple reason that it doesn't work...
>
> I'm missing something. Its purported mechanism is purely physical,
> something about smoothness of muscle movement and taste and smell
> responses caused by imbalances in the body. How would applies kinesiology
> even be a candidate to be called kishuf?
>
> I won't get into questions of endangering patients who might be lulled
> out of seeking more effective treatments or geneivas da'as.
>
> Tir'u baTov!
> -Micha
>
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