[Avodah] Chazal are Infallible

Micha Berger micha at aishdas.org
Mon Sep 25 12:59:05 PDT 2006


On Tue, September 19, 2006 4:58 pm, R Zev Sero wrote:
: Micha Berger wrote:
[RZS wrote:]
:>: Unfortunately, it doesn't explain the gemara, but the Rambam wasn't
:>:commenting on that, so he doesn't have to deal with it.
...
:> I do not know what you mean by "doesn't explain the gemara". Please
:> elaborate.
:> The gemara, like the mishnah, works with the assumption that since we can't
:> get perfect precision, we have a de'Oraisa telling us what to use.

: No, the gemara (on that mishna in Eruvin) isn't talking about what to
: do lemaaseh - it's talking about the yam shel shlomo, and it insists
: that the dimensions given in the Tanach are precise, without even a
: mashehu of approximation...

Aha! I thought we were talking about two things: a mishnah in Eiruvin and a
gemara in Sukkah. Now that I know you meant the gemara in Eiruvin, this is
something you raised on mail-jewish in Aug 2000, and here in Aug 2004.

In vol 13, RJSO quoted Tosafos haRosh, who makes the argument about the shiur
of pi rather than pi itself. I added that fit the recollection I had of how I
was taught the gemara. RZS objected to the plausibility of this reading, and
in <http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol13/v13n076.shtml#11> RJSO gives a line by
line explanation of the gemara as he presumed the ThR understood it.

I didn't find RZS's reply to this explanation. If you would like to pick up
from that point rather than restart the debate from the beginning a third
time, I would appreciate it.

-mi
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