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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Rav Breuer explains that what decides whether a verse will have an Etnahta or not, is how many words it has in its 2<sup>nd</sup> part, after its main break:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>When a verse has more than 5 words in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section it always has an Etnahta.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>See how these verses illustrate this very vividly:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'> </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>עֵ֥ת לָלֶ֖דֶת וְעֵ֣ת <span style='color:red'>לָמ֑וּת </span>עֵ֣ת לָטַ֔עַת וְעֵ֖ת לַעֲק֥וֹר נָטֽוּעַ׃ <span style='color:#00B050'>(5)</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>עֵ֤ת לַהֲרוֹג֙ וְעֵ֣ת <span style='color:red'>לִרְפּ֔וֹא </span>עֵ֥ת לִפְר֖וֹץ וְעֵ֥ת לִבְנֽוֹת׃ <span style='color:#00B050'>(4)</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>עֵ֤ת לִבְכּוֹת֙ וְעֵ֣ת <span style='color:red'>לִשְׂח֔וֹק </span>עֵ֥ת סְפ֖וֹד וְעֵ֥ת רְקֽוֹד׃ <span style='color:#00B050'>(4)</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>עֵ֚ת לְהַשְׁלִ֣יךְ אֲבָנִ֔ים וְעֵ֖ת כְּנ֣וֹס <span style='color:red'>אֲבָנִ֑ים </span>עֵ֣ת לַחֲב֔וֹק וְעֵ֖ת לִרְחֹ֥ק מֵחַבֵּֽק׃ <span style='color:#00B050'>(5)</span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>When there are 2-4 words in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section, then usually, but not always, there will be an etnahta. The more words (from 2-4), the greater the chance of the Etnahta.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>When there is 1 word in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section, then there will usually NOT be an Etnahta, but there are quite a few exceptions. Here, when the verse contains more than 1 sentence, it increases the chances of an Etnahta:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֱ-לֹהִ֖ים יְהִ֣י <span style='color:red'>א֑וֹר </span>וַֽיְהִי־אֽוֹר</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>But, see this verse, with no less than 23 words in it, but with no Etnahta! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>It divides into two on the Tipha, the strongest break before the Sof-passuk (note that 2 hyphenated words are always considered 1 word):<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וַיַּקְהֵ֣ל דָּוִ֣יד אֶת־כׇּל־שָׂרֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֡ל שָׂרֵ֣י הַשְּׁבָטִ֣ים וְשָׂרֵ֣י הַמַּחְלְק֣וֹת הַמְשָׁרְתִ֪ים אֶת־הַמֶּ֟לֶךְ וְשָׂרֵ֣י הָאֲלָפִ֣ים וְשָׂרֵ֣י הַמֵּא֡וֹת וְשָׂרֵ֣י כׇל־רְכוּשׁ־וּמִקְנֶה֩ ׀ לַמֶּ֨לֶךְ וּלְבָנָ֜יו עִם־הַסָּרִיסִ֧ים וְהַגִּבּוֹרִ֛ים וּֽלְכׇל־גִּבּ֥וֹר <span style='color:red'>חָ֖יִל </span>אֶל־יְרוּשָׁלָֽ͏ִם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>(There are actually a handful of exceptions to the 1<sup>st</sup> rule I wrote above, when there are 5 words in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section, but each has a clear reason.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>After having written all that, I don’t see how it is relevant to the verse we are discussing:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֥וּ בָנָ֖יו ל֑וֹ כֵּ֖ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> - </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif'>בראשית נ, יב</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri Light",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Sure, this verse, according to the above rules, could have </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>been divided by</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'> a Zakef.</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>W</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>hy does that matter?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֤וּ בָנָיו֙ ל֔וֹ כֵּ֖ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽם</span><span lang=EN-AU dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>If the verse would have been divided, as we would expect, on the word </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>כֵּן</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span>, then the te’amim would have been one of these options:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֥וּ בָנָ֛יו ל֖וֹ כֵּ֑ן כַּאֲשֶׁ</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>֖</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>O</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>r:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֨וּ בָנ</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>ָ֥</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>יו ל</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>֛</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>וֹ כֵּ</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>֖</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo'>ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Don’t see any musical difficulty with either of them.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Yitzhak<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Mesorah <mesorah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rabbi Berysz Rosenberg via Mesorah<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 28 December 2023 3:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Yisrael Dubitsky <yidubitsky@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> mesorah@aishdas.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mesorah] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בראשית נ, יב</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indeed two of the pesukim have 10 words each, but one of them has 3 makafim and one even 4. So from the point of view of neginah it's sort of 6 and 7, rather than 10 words.<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt'>Rabbi Berysz Rosenberg</span></b><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>12, Minhat Yitzhak Street<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Jerusalem, 9448019<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>E. Israel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Phone: +97225306565<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>mobile: +972548589632 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>SMS: +41792328026<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Telefax: +972773181740<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>mobile Mrs. Rosenberg: +972548589638 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:dovortov@gmail.com" target="_blank">dovortov@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am Do., 28. Dez. 2023 um 15:41 Uhr schrieb Yisrael Dubitsky via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Perhaps Price's Concordance will have the list -- but i havent checked it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>but see Bereshit 10:13-17 for pesukim without an etnahta (among them 10-words-long pesukim).<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:55 PM Akiva Miller via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Aharon Gal wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>> Pasuk of this size could have used Zakef as the main dichotomy.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A pasuk without an esnachta?!? I've seen this only in the very shortest of pesukim. Az Yashir has two such cases (at 15:12 and 15:18), and they are both only four words long.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>OOOPS! I just saw that Shemos 15:24 lacks any esnachta, and it is a whopping 7 words long.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Trivia question: Does anyone know which is the longest pasuk to lack an esnachta? For that matter, is there a pasuk anywhere that has two?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Akiva Miller<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Mesorah mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org" target="_blank">http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Mesorah mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org" target="_blank">http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>