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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Yes please!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>May I ask how you made the list? For that reason, I write to the whole group, as the answer may turn out to be more important than the list.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'>Yitzhak<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS";color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> galsaba@aol.com <galsaba@aol.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 29 December 2023 12:48 AM<br><b>To:</b> mesorah@aishdas.org; Yitzhak Ajzner <yitzhakajz@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mesorah] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בראשית נ, יב</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>I produced a list of all the verses which do not have an Etnach. I dont think I can send it here to the group, but I can send to the individuals who will ask.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Aharon Gal<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>201-414-7190<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="ydpb8e65101yahoo_quoted_4731392822"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 05:32:10 PM EST, Yitzhak Ajzner via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381><div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>Rav Breuer explains that what decides whether a verse will have an Etnahta or not, is how many words it has in its 2<sup>nd</sup> part, after its main break:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>When a verse has more than 5 words in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section it always has an Etnahta.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>See how these verses illustrate this very vividly:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֥ת לָלֶ֖דֶת וְעֵ֣ת </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:red'>לָמ֑וּת </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֣ת לָטַ֔עַת וְעֵ֖ת לַעֲק֥וֹר נָטֽוּעַ׃ </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#00B050'>(5)</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֤ת לַהֲרוֹג֙ וְעֵ֣ת </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:red'>לִרְפּ֔וֹא </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֥ת לִפְר֖וֹץ וְעֵ֥ת לִבְנֽוֹת׃ </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#00B050'>(4)</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֤ת לִבְכּוֹת֙ וְעֵ֣ת </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:red'>לִשְׂח֔וֹק </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֥ת סְפ֖וֹד וְעֵ֥ת רְקֽוֹד׃ </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#00B050'>(4)</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֚ת לְהַשְׁלִ֣יךְ אֲבָנִ֔ים וְעֵ֖ת כְּנ֣וֹס </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:red'>אֲבָנִ֑ים </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>עֵ֣ת לַחֲב֔וֹק וְעֵ֖ת לִרְחֹ֥ק מֵחַבֵּֽק׃ </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#00B050'>(5)</span><span lang=HE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#002060'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#002060'> </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>When there are 2-4 words in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section, then usually, but not always, there will be an etnahta. The more words (from 2-4), the greater the chance of the Etnahta.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>When there is 1 word in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section, then there will usually NOT be an Etnahta, but there are quite a few exceptions. Here, when the verse contains more than 1 sentence, it increases the chances of an Etnahta:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַיֹּ֥אמֶר אֱ-לֹהִ֖ים יְהִ֣י </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:red'>א֑וֹר </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַֽיְהִי־אֽוֹר</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>But, see this verse, with no less than 23 words in it, but with no Etnahta! </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>It divides into two on the Tipha, the strongest break before the Sof-passuk (note that 2 hyphenated words are always considered 1 word):</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַיַּקְהֵ֣ל דָּוִ֣יד אֶת־כׇּל־שָׂרֵ֣י יִשְׂרָאֵ֡ל שָׂרֵ֣י הַשְּׁבָטִ֣ים וְשָׂרֵ֣י הַמַּחְלְק֣וֹת הַמְשָׁרְתִ֪ים אֶת־הַמֶּ֟לֶךְ וְשָׂרֵ֣י הָאֲלָפִ֣ים וְשָׂרֵ֣י הַמֵּא֡וֹת וְשָׂרֵ֣י כׇל־רְכוּשׁ־וּמִקְנֶה֩ ׀ לַמֶּ֨לֶךְ וּלְבָנָ֜יו עִם־הַסָּרִיסִ֧ים וְהַגִּבּוֹרִ֛ים וּֽלְכׇל־גִּבּ֥וֹר </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:red'>חָ֖יִל </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>אֶל־יְרוּשָׁלָֽ͏ִם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span>(There are actually a handful of exceptions to the 1<sup>st</sup> rule I wrote above, when there are 5 words in the 2<sup>nd</sup> section, but each has a clear reason.)</span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>After having written all that, I don’t see how it is relevant to the verse we are discussing:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֥וּ בָנָ֖יו ל֑וֹ כֵּ֖ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> - </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>בראשית נ, יב</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>Sure, this verse, according to the above rules, could have </span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>been divided by</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> a Zakef.</span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> </span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>W</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>hy does that matter?</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֤וּ בָנָיו֙ ל֔וֹ כֵּ֖ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#002060'><span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL></span> </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>If the verse would have been divided, as we would expect, on the word </span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>כֵּן</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span>, then the te’amim would have been one of these options:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֥וּ בָנָ֛יו ל֖וֹ כֵּ֑ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֖ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span dir=LTR style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> </span><span lang=HE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>O</span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>r:</span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal dir=RTL style='text-align:right;direction:rtl;unicode-bidi:embed'><span lang=HE style='font-size:18.0pt;font-family:Shlomo;color:#26282A'>וַיַּעֲשׂ֨וּ בָנָ֥יו ל֛וֹ כֵּ֖ן כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוָּֽם</span><span dir=LTR style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>Don’t see any musical difficulty with either of them.</span><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=HE dir=RTL style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'>Yitzhak</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Sans",serif;color:#002060'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381yqt85016><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org">mesorah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rabbi Berysz Rosenberg via Mesorah<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 28 December 2023 3:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> Yisrael Dubitsky <<a href="mailto:yidubitsky@gmail.com">yidubitsky@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:mesorah@aishdas.org">mesorah@aishdas.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mesorah] <span lang=HE dir=RTL>בראשית נ, יב</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Indeed two of the pesukim have 10 words each, but one of them has 3 makafim and one even 4. So from the point of view of neginah it's sort of 6 and 7, rather than 10 words.<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Rabbi Berysz Rosenberg</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>12, Minhat Yitzhak Street</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Jerusalem, 9448019</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>E. Israel</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Phone: +97225306565</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>mobile: +972548589632 </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>SMS: +41792328026</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Telefax: +972773181740</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>mobile Mrs. Rosenberg: +972548589638 </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>E-Mail: <a href="mailto:dovortov@gmail.com" target="_blank">dovortov@gmail.com</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Am Do., 28. Dez. 2023 um 15:41 Uhr schrieb Yisrael Dubitsky via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Perhaps Price's Concordance will have the list -- but i havent checked it.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>but see Bereshit 10:13-17 for pesukim without an etnahta (among them 10-words-long pesukim).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:55 PM Akiva Miller via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Aharon Gal wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>> Pasuk of this size could have used Zakef as the main dichotomy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>A pasuk without an esnachta?!? I've seen this only in the very shortest of pesukim. Az Yashir has two such cases (at 15:12 and 15:18), and they are both only four words long.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>OOOPS! I just saw that Shemos 15:24 lacks any esnachta, and it is a whopping 7 words long.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Trivia question: Does anyone know which is the longest pasuk to lack an esnachta? For that matter, is there a pasuk anywhere that has two?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Akiva Miller<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Mesorah mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org" target="_blank">http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><p class=ydpb8e65101yiv0160818381msonormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Mesorah mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org" target="_blank">http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><div id=ydpb8e65101yqt02873><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________<br>Mesorah mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org" target="_blank">http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>