<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Indeed</div><div dir="auto">Revia seems to be the predominant choice</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I was surprise to see ZK in a Tanach influenced by  Heidenheim ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So I was triggered to investigate.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">RRW</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Ze'ev Atlas <zatlas1@yahoo.com> </div><div>Date: 12/9/23  20:28  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: galsaba@aol.com, David Cohen <ddcohen@gmail.com>, Ritchie Wolpoe <rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com> </div><div>Cc: Henry Topas <hanktopas@gmail.com>, mesorah@aishdas.org </div><div>Subject: Re: [Mesorah] וישב ל"ח י"ב הוא </div><div><br></div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:24px;" class="ydpdcba836eyahoo-style-wrap"><div><div data-setdir="false" dir="ltr"><br></div><div data-setdir="false" dir="ltr"><img data-id="<ef0e79a4-70a8-2e0f-8899-bba844ad76ff@yahoo.com>" style="max-width: 800px; width: 100%;" class="yahoo-inline-image" src="cid:com_samsung_android_email_attachmentprovider_1_16765_RAW_1702175241545" alt="Inline image" title="Inline image" onmouseover="imageMousePointerUpdate(true)" onmouseout="imageMousePointerUpdate(false)" name="com_samsung_android_email_attachmentprovider_1_16765_RAW_1702175241545"><br><span></span><br><span></span>This is from Keter Leningrad, AKA Keter Mitzraim.  It surely looks more like Revia than a Zaqef</div><div><br></div><div class="ydpdcba836esignature">Ze'ev Atlas<br>201-801-0378<br>201-805-0286 (cell)</div></div>
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                    On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 01:45:59 PM EST, David Cohen <ddcohen@gmail.com> wrote:
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                    On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 03:18:13 PM EST, Henry Topas <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:hanktopas@gmail.com" shape="rect">hanktopas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydpe0b946b7yiv3151785553m_-4399231316530367835ydp796329f8yiv6762318406"><div>Would love to do so:  kindly count me in <div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="direction:rtl;">כל טוב. שבת שלום חג חנוכה שמח</div><div style="direction:rtl;"><br clear="none"></div><div style="direction:rtl;"><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><div id="ydpe0b946b7yiv3151785553m_-4399231316530367835ydp796329f8yiv6762318406yqtfd70641"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:08 PM, Aharon Gal via Mesorah <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" shape="rect">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div></div><div id="ydpe0b946b7yiv3151785553m_-4399231316530367835ydp796329f8yiv6762318406yqtfd87394"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div id="ydpe0b946b7yiv3151785553m_-4399231316530367835ydp796329f8yiv6762318406yqtfd02671"><div>He is a very modest guy, so I know just his first name. HaRav Yakov<div>He have been sending this on the parashoth and haftaroth every week</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>If you speak some Hebrew, and I bet you do,</div><div>You can join our whatsup group</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Aaron<br clear="none"><div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><blockquote type="cite">On Dec 8, 2023, at 2:57 PM, rabbirichwolpoe <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com" shape="rect">rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>This source is very good</div><div>Who is the author?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Is there a key to the mss.?</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div id="ydpe0b946b7yiv3151785553m_-4399231316530367835ydp796329f8yiv6762318406composer_signature"></div></div><div>RRW<div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:rgb(0,0,0);" align="left"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:galsaba@aol.com" shape="rect">galsaba@aol.com</a> </div><div>Date: 12/8/23  14:21  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: <a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:mesorah@aishdas.org" shape="rect">mesorah@aishdas.org</a>, rabbirichwolpoe <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com" shape="rect">rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com</a>> </div><div>Cc: Ze'ev Atlas <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:zatlas1@yahoo.com" shape="rect">zatlas1@yahoo.com</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [Mesorah] וישב ל"ח י"ב הוא </div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><div dir="ltr">See the attached. The last pages.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><div style="color:black;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;font-stretch:normal;font-size:10pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial;">Aharon Gal<div>201-414-7190</div></div></div></div>
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                    On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 12:44:36 PM EST, rabbirichwolpoe via Mesorah <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" shape="rect">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:
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