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Which is why I originally mentioned only that it was used referring to HQBH, who is referred to as Qoneh shomayim vo'oretz. I remembered that RYBS had said that the others uses derive somehow.</div>
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My point was purely linguistic, and it was how meanings of words shift, so I tried to abbreviate what I said, since my main point was about l'hadliq.
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Micha Berger <micha@aishdas.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 1, 2020 3:33 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mandel, Seth <mandels@ou.org><br>
<b>Cc:</b> mesorah@lists.aishdas.org <mesorah@lists.aishdas.org>; Zev Sero <zev@sero.name><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mesorah] a note about L'shon Chazal</font>
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<div class="PlainText">On Wed, Apr 01, 2020 at 05:11:49PM +0000, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah wrote:<br>
> Yes, but not in the sense of buying, but specialized in the sense of "gaining possession," as in qinyan keseph and qinyan chalippin, and gold is qoneh silver.<br>
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Qinyan in rabbinic hebrew goes beyond posession, like the qinyan sudar<br>
I am not using this year to appoint a shaliach to sell my chameitz.<br>
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It's a formalization ritual, which no longer is associated with formalizing<br>
a transfer of ownership.<br>
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RYBS suggested that qinyan as in purchasing comes from qoneh as making.<br>
A maker naturally owns what they made. From which we also get tiqun,<br>
to repair. Barter was a way of transferring ownership, which meant that<br>
I then owned what you made, and you own what I made. And we didn't all<br>
have to make ourselves every little thing we needed. And so, a qinyan<br>
on something is establishing a connection to the item from back when it<br>
was made. Now consider, "Ha'ishah niqneis..."<br>
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This ties in to the idea that qinyan haaretz can be lesha'atah ule'asid<br>
lavo, unlike kibbush.<br>
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Tir'u baTov!<br>
-Micha<br>
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