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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">that is exigesis, not grammar. I refuse to believe that the G'ra felt this is a grammatical issue: are you suggesting that he was unaware of <span>ëÉì äÇùÌÑÀàÅøÄéú äÇðÌÄùÑÀàÈøÄéí</span><br>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">in Yirm'yah, which proves that the -ot plural is not a proof that the form is feminine.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Are you telling me that we should tale all the droshos that rabbis make as grammatically correct?</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Lelot is masculine, and no one has any basis for disagreeing, any more than one would say that hittim is masculine.</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 14, 2019 1:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mandel, Seth<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Ira L. Jacobson<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mesorah] How widespread is ignorance of Hebrew?</font>
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Of course, RSM, you're correct re "layla"; but note what RNW quoted <i>b'sheim haGRA</i>
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<div dir="ltr">Layla is never feminine. It is from a form like *laylay, and the qomatz he at the end is unstressed, not a feminine ending. That is also the basis of the form Lele, as in lele p’sahim; it is not the s’mikgut of the plural, which is Lelot, with
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On April 14, 2019 at 11:10:34 AM EDT, Michael Poppers via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank" id="LPlnk646571" class="OWAAutoLink" previewremoved="true">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null">
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> <span class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null" style="color:rgb(0,0,128); font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">There are many explanations...</span> <</div>
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...and I'm sure RSM (to whom I wish a r'fua shleima b'qarov!) is familiar w/ at least two of them: "hagadol" is a reference to (a) the end of the haftara; and (b) grownups (IINM, RAM quoted the S'fas Emes on this in this past week's JEC [of Elizabeth, NJ] parasha
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> <span class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null" style="color:rgb(0,0,128); font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender</span> <</div>
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As opposed to, say, "layla", yet we say "Mah nishtana halayla hazeh...", and I don't think the phrase was created by someone ignorant in grammar.</div>
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:55 PM Ira L. Jacobson via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null OWAAutoLink" target="_blank" id="LPlnk700683" previewremoved="true">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>>
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<div class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null">"The Shabbos preceding Passover is traditionally known as Shabbos HaGadol — the Great Shabbos."<br class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null">
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As you all know, that is not what the Hebrew means The great Shabbos would be haShabbos haG'dolah.</div>
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There are many explanations, such as the drasha is given by a gadol. And hence Shabbat is in nismakh, with a patah under the bet.<br class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null">
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But the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender.<br class="x_gmail-m_-4217123469755674842gmail-m_3140006879560690450null">
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