<div dir="ltr"> The use of the pasuk "Kol atzmosy" as a remez to movement of the body during davening long antedates chasidus. It appears in the Abudarham, and is cited in the RM"A in OC 48. <div><br></div><div>EMT</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:09 PM, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I do not know any English speaker who would call shockeling "swaying." Rocking, perhaps.<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">No. Swaying existed during davening, but not shockeling.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">The posuq, as you can see, does not define what action is being taken. You must be able to realize that it is chasidim who use this posuq as a "proof," but the posuq does not mean that at all. Swaying would also meet
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff">I am not sure what is the difference between swaying and shuckeling, except perhaps the speed and extent of forward motion.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:#000000;background-color:#ffffff">Yes (sigh) I realize that Dovid Hamelech did not actually have shuckeling in mind when he wrote Tehillim, and probably did not have any movement
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