<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">Quoth R'Seth, "<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">As with most of dikduk, we are dealing with picayune mistakes. But a mistake it is, and it grates on my ears.</span>" To which I humbly add, "And that's the EHmes" :).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">vaychulLU, whereas almost everyone says vayCHUlu</span> <</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">At least a small part of the problem is that many of our brethren do not know (dare I add, do not care to learn the basics of) <i>ta'amei haMiqra</i>, not just their function in creating phrases but their function as accents. Maybe <i>hQbH</i> will grant me the <i>koach</i> & my local school will someday let me teach<i> t'amim</i> to the young'uns ....</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">> <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">many places where people mispronounce ... </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:16px">a couple of places almost everyone makes a mistake</span> <</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)">C'mon, R'Seth, don't hold back -- tell us how you really feel :).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,255)"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,255);font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Gut Chodesh & "Zos Chanukas haMizbeiach!" from </span><font face="trebuchet ms, sans-serif" style="" color="#9900ff"><i style="">Michael</i></font></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org" target="_blank">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">and with it a pet peeve of mine.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">There are many places where people mispronounce the Hebrew. In many of these places, people who know some grammar do not, for instance in the first b'rokho of Shmoneh Esreh most people who have learned Hebrew say "hagoDOL
hagibBOR v'hannoRA," even though you will find those who say "haGOdol haGIBbor v'haNOra."</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">But there are a couple of places almost everyone makes a mistake (although, for completely full disclosure, RYHBS said correctly; he was not much on dikduk but R. Chaim Brisker was):</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">one is in the b'rokhos on neros Chanukka: she'Osoh NIsim, instead of she'osSOH nisSIM.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Another is qiddush on Friday night; vaychulLU, whereas almost everyone says vayCHUlu.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">I am not focusing on the change in meaning, which is only in the last case. I am focusing on the clear distortion of the Hebrew. The reason is clear: they learned the b'rokhos and qiddush from someone from Eastern Europe
who pronounced Hebrew with the penultimate stress of Yiddish, rather than the ultimate stress that is standard in most Hebrew words.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">As with most of dikduk, we are dealing with picayune mistakes. But a mistake it is, and it grates on my ears.</p>
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