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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Mandel, Seth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 19, 2017 1:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Akiva Miller<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Mesorah] Paane'ach</font>
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<p>Such a root appears NOWHERE in the entire T'NaKh nor in any other Semitic language.</p>
<p>Its presence in the siddur would not be surprising, since the m'forshim interpreted it, and the siddur uses all sorts of non-Biblical words common in L'shon Chazal.</p>
<p>Given the fact that Tzafnat Pa'aneach has a clear Egyptian meaning, it seems unreasonable to posit that even Tzafnat is Hebrew, but rather that the entire phrase is Egyptian. I would make no sense to use one Hebrew form (the form of Tzafnat is not known
either for a Hebrew noun) followed by an Egyptian word.</p>
<p>There are Assyrian loan words in Biblical Hebrew. I do not see the difficulty in admitting that something labeled as Egyptian was indeed Egyptian.</p>
<p>The question is greater regarding the name Pinchas. It is not labeled as an Egyptian name, and yet it is clearly not Semitic, and there was an Egyptian name Pin'ches.<br>
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<div dir="auto">I'm interested in the 4-letter root peh, ayin, nun, ches. I had thought this was an Egyptian word, since (according to my concordance) it appears in Tanach only once, in the name that Paroh gave to Yosef.
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<div dir="auto">But I recently realized that it also appears in the Nusach Sefard version of Nishmas, in the phrase, "v'ham'faane'ach ne'elamim". And yesterday, I saw it twice in the same paragraph (Kip'on, right after Mechayeh Hameisim) of Yotzros for Parshas
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<div dir="auto">Does it appear anywhere else? Is there any evidence that it is an Egyptian word that was accepted into Hebrew? Or can one argue that it has always been Hebrew, and (like Tzafnas seems to be) is just the Hebrew translation of whatever name it
was that Paroh gave to Yosef?</div>
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<div dir="auto">Just wondering. </div>
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<div dir="auto">advTHANKSance</div>
<div dir="auto">Akiva Miller</div>
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