<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN">
<html><body style='font-family: Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif'>
<p>That's close, but not entirely accurate -- so let me try to clear it up.</p>
<p><span>1. RMP noted that he was paraphrasing RGEK in <a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21msg/leining/hxAl32DdPfs/TlHbAjb7cdoJ" target="_blank"> this Leining thread</a> -- it's a good thread, check it out.<br /></span></p>
<p><span>2. What RMP/RGEK said regarding words with two segols was the following (and I dearly hope I am summarizing accurately!):<br /></span></p>
<p><span>2a. When the first vowel, in the possessive (or conjunctive) form, changes to a patach, this is what some call a QaTL segolate, and in the pausal form of this word, 1st segol will (with few exceptions) also change to a kamatz.<br /></span></p>
<p><span>2b. <span>When <span> the first vowel, in</span> the possessive (or conjunctive) form, <span>changes to</span> a chirik, this is <span>what some call</span> a QiTL <span>segolate</span>, <span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>there is no rule</strong></span> as to whether the <span>1st segol </span>changes to a <span>kamatz</span> or not. Some do, some don't. (The thread has an example, but I don't understand it).</span><br /></span></p>
<p><span><span><br />I hope this helps!<br /></span></span></p>
<p><span><span>-- Sholom<br /></span></span></p>
<p><span><span> </span></span></p>
<p>On 2016-01-04 05:01, David and Esther Bannett via Mesorah wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding-left:5px; border-left:#1010ff 2px solid; margin-left:5px; width:100%"><!-- html ignored --><!-- head ignored --><!-- meta ignored --><span style="font-size: medium;">Methinks you are ignoring R'Seth's explanation or misunderstanding him. He said that when the s'mikhut becomes a patach, the pausal form has a kamatz. When the s'mikhut becomes a chirik, the pausal form doesn't change.<br /><br /> As lechem becomes lachmi and geshem > gashmi, the pausal has a kamatz. As teven >tivnu, pausal remains teven.<br /><br /><br /> David<br /></span><!-- html ignored --></blockquote>
<p> </p>
<div> </div>
</body></html>