<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div style="direction:rtl">Unless yashar is a noun (which as far as I know it never is), it must be Yosher. Shaarei is smichut, and needs to be followed by a noun, like Yosher. Or am I </div><div style="direction:rtl">missing something? Jeremy</div><div>On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:17 AM, Zev Sero via Mesorah <<a href="mailto:mesorah@lists.aishdas.org">mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>On 08/24/2015 05:32 AM, Micha Berger via Mesorah wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Which is it -- if Rav Shimon named his seifer grammatically correctly</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(not a given) did he name it Shaarei Yosher or Shaarei Yashar?</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>It seems to me that the natural and obvious pronunciation of those</span><br><span>letters is "yashar", so the fact that the sefer is known as "yosher",</span><br><span>a far less obvious pronunciation, proves that it is the correct one.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Also, most titles of seforim in the form "shaarei X" describe what</span><br><span>the gates lead to, rather than the person who uses them. It's more</span><br><span>likely that this title conforms to that model than that it doesn't.</span><br><span>(I dismiss the third possibility, that "yashar" refers to the author,</span><br><span>since that would be the opposite of humility.)</span><br><span></span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Zev Sero I have a right to stand on my own defence, if you</span><br><span><a href="mailto:zev@sero.name">zev@sero.name</a> intend to commit felony...if a robber meets me in</span><br><span> the street and commands me to surrender my purse,</span><br><span> I have a right to kill him without asking questions</span><br><span> -- John Adams</span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Mesorah mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org">Mesorah@lists.aishdas.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org">http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>