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<DIV>In a message dated 8/24/2008 11:54:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
HayyimObadyah@aol.com writes:</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>The root
here is not Hws, but Hsh "to seek refuge".<BR>Hayyim</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>When you render a Hebrew shoresh into English letters, can you please spell
out the letters you mean? For example, you could write, ches-vav-sin -- because
I am not sure what you do mean here. Is "sh" a sound meant to represent a
shin or is it a sin (somech?) plus a ches? Thank you.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff>--Toby<BR></FONT><B><FONT color=#0000ff>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============</FONT><BR></B></DIV>
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size=2><BR><BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
mesorah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org<BR>[mailto:mesorah-bounces@lists.aishdas.org]
On Behalf Of Michael Hamm<BR>Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:35 PM<BR>To:
mesorah@aishdas.org<BR>Subject: [Mesorah] Ps. 37:40<BR><BR>Nusach S'farad (of
the Ashk'nazim) says the abovementioned pasuk before<BR>maariv: "Vaya'z'rem H'
vay'fal'tem... ki chasu vo."<BR><BR>There is a machlokes had'fusim
:-) over the trop on "ki chasu". The<BR>Koren, at least, puts a
hyphenates it with a makaf: "ki-chasu". And<BR>everyone seems to agree
that the stress on "chasu" is mil'el: "CHAsu".<BR><BR>Now, from the very
little I know about nasog achor, the rule that stress<BR>moves to be mil'el
when the next word has its first syllable stressed, I<BR>understand thatthat
does not occur in a hyphenated word. Correct me if I'm<BR>wrong,
please.<BR><BR>Yet "CHAsu", if nasog achor has not been applied to it, means
"pitied",<BR>which makes no sense in context. (I'm not sure what Yonasan
is saying; no<BR>one else translates the word.)<BR><BR>What's going
on?<BR><BR>Achad shahat,<BR><BR>Michael Hamm<BR>AM, Math, Wash. U. St.
Louis<BR>msh210@math.wustl.edu
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