[Mesorah] מקראות גדולות - ונציה, רע"ח - מהדורת המקראות הגדולות הראשונה - דפוס בומברג

[Michael R Stein]

It would be more useful, to me at least, if you could just repost what 
he wrote...saves the trouble of doing my own search.

On 9/5/2024 4:05, Yitzhak Ajzner via Mesorah wrote:
> Sorry to bother you all again.
> 
> I just figured out how to view the Hebrew parts of Rav Seth’s posts, so 
> need to send help about that. Thanks.
> 
> If this interests anybody, then let me know, and I can post how to do it.
> 
> Yitzhak
> 
> *From:*Yitzhak Ajzner <yitzhakajz at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2024 11:59 AM
> *To:* dovbbb at gmail.com; 'Mesorah Email List' <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>
> *Subject:* RE: [Mesorah] מקראות גדולות - ונציה, רע"ח - מהדורת המקראות 
> הגדולות הראשונה - דפוס בומברג
> 
> As always, this forum has been extremely helpful and resourceful! Thank you.
> 
> Using “SECOND Rabbinic Bible, 1525-7” for my search, in light of Dov’s 
> correction, I was able to find the whole book online here 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://archive.org/details/The_Second_Rabbinic_Bible_Vol_1__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!Qm9N8IldzlzZTbFlKspw1QvkSrEQoLSv9AySFLP6Zg9yEUG69Stxep_Q3X2jujkv39HYvktHN8Lb5zjvAY_j3nS6wr5p$>. Was able to download as Pdfs as well.
> 
> Dov, I would love to read everything Rabbi Seth wrote in that thread. I 
> took a look at the archives, but all the Hebrew he wrote comes out 
> gibberish for me.
> 
> Do you have an email from back then that contains the whole thread that 
> you could forward me? (I wasn’t in this group back then). Perhaps 
> someone knows how I can view the file that one can download from the 
> archives, so the Hebrew comes out properly?
> 
> Thanks for the great help!!
> 
> Yitzhak
> 
> *From:*Dov Bloom <dovbbb at gmail.com <mailto:dovbbb at gmail.com>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 5 September 2024 1:16 AM
> *To:* Yitzhak Ajzner <yitzhakajz at gmail.com <mailto:yitzhakajz at gmail.com>>
> *Cc:* Mesorah Email List <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org 
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> *Subject:* Re: [Mesorah] מקראות גדולות - ונציה, רע"ח - מהדורת המקראות 
> הגדולות הראשונה - דפוס בומברג
> 
> The classic Mikraot Gedolot, refered to by Breuer as Dalet, is not 
> called the first edition. It is called in English the SECOND Rabbinic 
> Bible, 1525-7 I believe. This is the one Yaacov ben Chaim worked on.
> 
> I shivver to quote Wikipedia but here they are correct:
> 
> Bomberg editions of Mikraot Gedolot
> 
> First published in 1516–17 by Daniel Bomberg 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bomberg__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!Qm9N8IldzlzZTbFlKspw1QvkSrEQoLSv9AySFLP6Zg9yEUG69Stxep_Q3X2jujkv39HYvktHN8Lb5zjvAY_j3nj9JR7n$> in Venice <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venice__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!Qm9N8IldzlzZTbFlKspw1QvkSrEQoLSv9AySFLP6Zg9yEUG69Stxep_Q3X2jujkv39HYvktHN8Lb5zjvAY_j3rtLbrMb$>, the /Mikraot Gedolot/ was edited by Felix Pratensis <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Pratensis__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!Qm9N8IldzlzZTbFlKspw1QvkSrEQoLSv9AySFLP6Zg9yEUG69Stxep_Q3X2jujkv39HYvktHN8Lb5zjvAY_j3rUiL2hJ$>. The second edition was edited by the Masoretic scholar Jacob ben Hayyim ibn Adonijah <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_ben_Hayyim_ibn_Adonijah__;!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!Qm9N8IldzlzZTbFlKspw1QvkSrEQoLSv9AySFLP6Zg9yEUG69Stxep_Q3X2jujkv39HYvktHN8Lb5zjvAY_j3hefUTIB$> in 1525.^[3] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikraot_Gedolot*cite_note-3__;Iw!!Dq0X2DkFhyF93HkjWTBQKhk!Qm9N8IldzlzZTbFlKspw1QvkSrEQoLSv9AySFLP6Zg9yEUG69Stxep_Q3X2jujkv39HYvktHN8Lb5zjvAY_j3t-WB-1m$>
> 
> R Seth Mandel z'l wrote an excellent post on this very list on 31.7.2014 
> where he mentions both the Ibn Adoniahu 1525 (Second) addition, and 
> refers also to the Pratensis First edition ( re: gaayot and hataphim).
> 
>  From Seth's post of 2014:
> 
> However, Ya'akov Ibn Adoniyah did quite an amazing job in the Great 
> Rabbinic Bible published by Daniel Bomberg in 1525.  He recognized the 
> importance of the Mesorah and printed both the Q'tanna and G'dola.  He 
> he attempted to gather the best manuscripts of the T'N'aKh from around 
> the Jewish world, and what he called "Miqra'ot G'dolot" remained the 
> standard for all subsequent printings for 400 years
> 
> Dov Bloom
> 
> On Wed, Sep 4, 2024, 10:48 Yitzhak Ajzner via Mesorah 
> <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org <mailto:mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>> wrote:
> 
>     Does anybody know whether/where one can find the first printed
>     edition of Mikra’ot Gedolot online?
> 
>     I mean the edition that I believe is often referred to as “Dfus Rishon”.
> 
>     Put out by Daniel Bomberg, with the aid of R Eliyah Bahur and
>     Yaa’kov ben Haim.
> 
>     A pdf version would be great as well, of course.
> 
>     Thanks,
> 
>     Yitzhak
> 
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