[Mesorah] Emet Trops

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I have a question regarding the following pasuk:"לְדָוִ֡ד אֵ֘לֶ֤יךָ יְדוָ֨ד ׀ אֶקְרָ֗א   צוּרִי֮ אַֽל־תֶּחֱרַ֪שׁ מִ֫מֶּ֥נִּי  פֶּן־תֶּֽחֱשֶׁ֥ה מִמֶּ֑נִּי    וְ֝נִמְשַׁ֗לְתִּי עִם־י֥וֹרְדֵי בֽוֹר׃" (תהילים כח:א)
I put the spaces as they appear in Tehilim The edition on Mosad HaRav Kuk.It is clear that there is a long pause after "LeDavid". The reason is the ta'am Pazer. Ta'am pazer when it "rules" just its own word, ie, there is no any word before it, in this case this trope is not a "shalish" (the weakest level), but it is the "temura" ("replacement") of the Etnach.

In this case, how it is possible that Etnach (its "temura") will appear before the trop Ole VeYored?How it is possible to have two Etnach (one is a temura) in the same pasuk?

Aharon Gal201-414-7190 

    On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 11:11:20 AM EDT, Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:  
 
 This isn’t really a dikduk question. Without nikkud, the morphology is not fully specified. It is a compositional question. Which meaning of the word gives an idiomatically correct sentence. The answer to this, I think, relies as much on the use of the word מפי as the form of למדן. The broader context could also help. In other words, you could know every page of a reference grammar inside and out, and still not be able to answer this question.Jeremy 

On Sep 13, 2022, at 10:37 AM, micha--- via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Zvi Lampel <zvilampel at gmail.com>
Date: Sep 13, 2022, 9:49 AM -0400
To: Micha Berger <micha at aishdas.org>
Subject: A dikduk question


Hi, Micha.
Could you forward this question to those who would have an answer? 
In this sentence,וכולן למדן משה רבינו ע''ה מפי הגבורהdoes למדן mean ''he learned them''' or ''he taught them'''? (Nikud is not given.)
Thanks,
Zvi Lampel 


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