[Mesorah] How widespread is ignorance of Hebrew?

[Mandel, Seth]

I have no evidence that this is so, but how certain are we that the Perush attributed to the Gra is actually from him?

Considering all the misattributions of other things in the Haggodo, I feel that I do have to ask.


Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel
Rabbinic Coordinator
The Orthodox Union

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From: Michael Poppers <michaelpoppers at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 1:17 PM
To: Mandel, Seth
Cc: Ira L. Jacobson
Subject: Re: [Mesorah] How widespread is ignorance of Hebrew?

Of course, RSM, you're correct re "layla"; but note what RNW quoted b'sheim haGRA here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.aish.com_tp_i_m_48936372.html&d=DwMFaQ&c=VTwaeXjOsAHot2hQQ0nozrBJwyviuCtydNuGwYGfYiI&r=e6XbAQdGwcl_5FMtQ-t1eA&m=TDvo8o9Xks1hyQvrjV32r8MMm8QLJrs4tCLwc-RDmtw&s=zOzErSr764HtNfxBxtlr7AFGZo5uT1cgIuvVkYi69iw&e=> (stanza "THE ANOMALY OF THE FEMALE FORCE")....

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 12:25 PM Mandel, Seth <mandels at ou.org<mailto:mandels at ou.org>> wrote:
Layla is never feminine. It is from a form like *laylay, and the qomatz he at the end is unstressed, not a feminine ending. That is also the basis of the form Lele, as in lele p’sahim; it is not the s’mikgut of the plural, which is Lelot, with the plural -ot as many masculine nouns have.   The s’ikhut of the plural would be lelot-


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On April 14, 2019 at 11:10:34 AM EDT, Michael Poppers via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org<mailto:mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>> wrote:
> There are many explanations... <
...and I'm sure RSM (to whom I wish a r'fua shleima b'qarov!) is familiar w/ at least two of them: "hagadol" is a reference to (a) the end of the haftara; and (b) grownups (IINM, RAM quoted the S'fas Emes on this in this past week's JEC [of Elizabeth, NJ] parasha sheet).

> the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender <
As opposed to, say, "layla", yet we say "Mah nishtana halayla hazeh...", and I don't think the phrase was created by someone ignorant in grammar.

Chag Pesach Kasher v'Sameach!
and all the best from
Michael Poppers * Elizabeth, NJ, USA

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 3:55 PM Ira L. Jacobson via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org<mailto:mesorah at lists.aishdas.org>> wrote:
At 18:02 12-04-19  +0000, Mandel, Seth via Mesorah stated the following:

"The Shabbos preceding Passover is traditionally known as Shabbos HaGadol — the Great Shabbos."

As you all know, that is not what the Hebrew means  The great Shabbos would be haShabbos haG'dolah.

There are many explanations, such as the drasha is given by a gadol.  And hence Shabbat is in nismakh, with a patah under the bet.

But the truth is that Shabbat can be of either gender.

Ira L. Jacobson



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