[Mesorah] Nongrammarian needs help

[Mandel, Seth]

Another possibility is that your siddurim are wrong. Teimanim have always said ‘osoni.
And your examples from III-n roots do not have much to do with the root ‘-s-?
But I am South of the Equator so feel free to argue that my comments are a result of being upside down.


Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel

On January 18, 2018 at 4:46:53 PM GMT-3, David and Esther Bannett via Mesorah <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
Although I'm one who prefers mesorah to the rules of grammar, I was checking the breakdown into syllables of a word and became confused. So I'm turning to the list for aid.

I was looking at the word asani as in shelo asani goi, eved etc.  If the sin had a kamatz, I have no problem. The syllables are a-sa-ni with no dagesh in the nun.  But the sin has a patach and to me it seems that the num should have a dagesh so the breakdown  is a-san-ni. but the nun has no dagesh in any siddur that I have seen.

As a mesoretic I checked the Bar-Ilan Keter and found 2 appearances of natani (nun w/ kamatz, tav with patach, nun without dagesh and with chirik).  With a dagesh, I then found 4 maginni, and 3 maginnei, and one dananni.  I didn't look for words with a third letter not a nun.

So, why is there no dagesh in asani.  Or, perhaps, I should ask what is wrong with my idea of syllablation of words.


bivrakha,

David
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