[Mesorah] Yid-mu vs Yi-demu

[Gershon via Mesorah]

Let's agree that the word in question means silence rather than similarity. If someone reads yidmu, no pronunciation of either the dagesh OR shva na, clearly then indicating similarity, should he be corrected as having made a mistake that changed the meaning?

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> On Jan 30, 2015, at 7:32 AM, Jeremy Rosenbaum Simon <jrs3 at nyu.edu> wrote:
> 
> Yes, R. Mandel's point, I believe, is that if is only by looking at
> the dagesh that you can understand thd difference. The shva doesn't
> clarify the meaning.
> 
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 8:15 PM, Gershon via Mesorah
> <mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> wrote:
> 
>> But one does not pronounce dagesh/no dagesh (well I don't) , one pronounces na/nach
>> 
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>>> On Jan 29, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Mandel, Seth <mandels at ou.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> the real difference is in the dagesh.  With a dagesh, it is from the root d-m-m, meaning to be silent (and, of course, the shwa is na').  Without the dagesh, it is from the root d-m-h, meaning to be similar (and the sh'wa is silent).
>>> Cherchez la dagesh, which is in place of doubling.
>>> 
>>> Rabbi Dr. Seth Mandel
>>> 
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>>> Can our learned membership opine on the Sheva in this word in the shiras hayam having a different meaning as na or nach?
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