[Mesorah] FW: FW: [Areivim] Oh, Oy, Ow

[Areivim]

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From: RA Dr. B. Rosenberg [mailto:] 
Sent: Sunday, 12 June 2011 7:50 AM
To: Areivim
Subject: Re: [Mesorah] FW: [Areivim] Oh, Oy, Ow

Gut Woch,

I do not think that I can post a message to all the readers, therefore 
may I kindly ask you to publish this for me:

There is a nice story about the son-in-law of the Netziv, Rav Refoel 
Shapira. His father's name was Arye Leib. When his wife gave birth to a 
boy (who was to beome the father of the future Rosh Yeshiva of Be'er 
Yaacov, Rav M. Sh.Shapira), R' Refoel wanted to name the child Arye Leib 
after his late father.
Whe his father-in-law, the Netziv, heard about it, he was very upset, 
since Ashkenazim are very makpid not to name a child after a living 
ancestor.
The Netziv's full name was Naftoli Tzvi Yehuda Leib. He was called Hersh 
Leib.
The son-in-law contradicted: Leib as we (Litvakes) pronounce it, may 
come from Layb (Tzeirei), which means "lion", or from Loyb (Choylom), 
which means "praise". So when it is a nickname for Arye (Lion) it is not 
the same name like the nickname for Yehuda (which means praise: hapa'am 
oydeh es Hashem, Yehuda atoh yoducho achecho)!
It appears that the the father-in-law didn't accept this argument. The 
talmidim of Be'er Yaacov remember their Rosh Yeshiva, the son of the 
above mentioned child, being called to the torah Rav Moshe Shmuel ben 
Rav Aryeh (without Leib).



Am 11.06.2011 14:44, schrieb Areivim:
> From: Micha Berger
> I asked this on mesorah and didn't get a satisfying answer...
>
> Do Litvaks distinguish between cheilam and tzeirei?
> And if not, did Litvisher purists (should I say "do" because we know
> RSM is out there somwhere?) believe they're supposed to?
> It would clear up the pasuk 'yismach Yisroel be'eisav'..
>
> And they it would stop requesting Hashem for that goat, "Hashem eiz le'amei
> yitein"
>
> SBA
>
>
>
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