[Mesorah] Heh Hayedia

[Mandel, Seth]

The first point that must be noted is that this rule is not a rule of He HaY'di'ah ("HH").  It is a more general phenomenon, and applies to other cases with a mandatory dagesh, e.g. after Waw haHippukh.  Everyone knows that the latter always necessitates a dagesh hazaq in the following letter, just as the HH.  However, in both cases the dagesh is often omitted in a non-stop consonant followed by a shewa.  The frequency of this varies according to the specific consonant.  It will never be omitted with a stop consonant, e.g. watt'dabber or hattayish.  It is usually, but NOT always, omitted with a yod and a mem.  It is sometimes omitted with a lamed.
The Mesorah consists of "wheels within wheels."  There is a general rule (the big wheel), there are classes of exceptions (the smaller wheels rotating within the big wheel), and almost always exceptions, sometimes enough to be an entire subclass.  The Ba'alei Mesorah were very conscious of these; Ben Asher in Sefer Diqduqei haT'amim gives many rules with subclasses of exceptions, and so do other very early works, such as Mahberet haTijan, notably regarding the absence of a dagesh in a word following a word ending in a vowel if connected with a ta'am m'sharet.
There is no difference between this and other parts of Torah.  The Mishna is quite often involved in giving the general rule, then a subclass of exceptions ("bammeh d'varim amurim"), and then further exceptions.
When you are teaching beginners, it is appropriate to first cover the general rule, and perhaps never mention the subclasses at all.  But there are usually subrules, and for more advanced students, they must learn the subrules.
As I have noted regularly in shiurim that I give, and many others greater than I have noted, one of the problems today is that many Jews, even some rabbis, are still stuck with what they learned when they were young about parts of the Torah.  To learn Torah, whether in what we would nowadays classify as "diqduq" or "halokho," is to learn the subrules and the exceptions.
I do not know the context of R. Reisman's remark, and so cannot comment on his statement or even discuss whether it would have been appropriate to mention that there are exceptions.  However, the issue that many times the HH is not followed by a dagesh, is not really a matter of exceptions, but rather a subrule that a dagesh elides in some classes of consonants when followed by a sh'wa.

Seth Mandel

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From: mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org [mesorah-bounces at lists.aishdas.org] on behalf of Gershon Dubin [gershon.dubin at juno.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [Mesorah] Heh Hayedia

The magid shiur didn't give exceptions;  I was soliciting them from the learned group.

Some of the heh's that you mention are not heh hayedia?

A most interesting observation regarding the yud, indeed.

Gershon
gershon.dubin at juno.com

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From: D&E-H Bannett <dbnet at zahav.net.il>
To: mesorah at lists.aishdas.org
Subject: Re: [Mesorah] Heh Hayedia
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:20:56 +0200

I don't believe that there is an 'ayyin with a dagesh in the
Torah or Tanakh. For that reason, the Hei hayedia before an
'ayyin normally takes a kamatz with the 'ayyin having a
chataf patach.

However there are exceptions to which the maggid shiur might
have been referring:

There are words where the hei has a patach: ha'avirenu,
ha'avot (ayyin bet vav tet), ha'anek.

There are also words with a sh'va nach under the 'ayyin:
ha-'tiru, ha-'lem.



While on the subject, I thought about the hei hayedia before
yud with sh'va such as hayladim, hayda'tem, hayvusi, and, in
these weeks' parashot, hay-or  .  I remember, that in the
chumash,  yud w/ sh'va after hei hayedia never has a dagesh.
There are some 90 without the dagesh. But what about the
rest of Tanakh.

So, I asked my keter CD and was told that:  In Nakh w/o
dagesh, there are 5 in Yehoshua and approximately 80 from
Shoftim to the end..  With dagesh, there are approx. 63 from
Shoftim on. A lot are hayehudim, hayevanim.

Interesting?

David


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