[Mesorah] "Vayigva Yitzchok vayomos vayeosef el amov"

[Seth Mandel]

This is completely true.  It is historical record that of all RSRH's many followers (and he had many, many adherents of his views), only about 10-20 followed him in the Austritt, because it meant not only not being buried with one's relatives, but also that one no longer was part of the Gemeinde hospital, old age home, could not use the communal hall where simchas were held.  They remained followers, but could not afford or could not bring themselves to cut themselves off from all of the community.
40 years later, RSRH had succeeded, and no self-respecting Orthodox Hungarian, nor any of the "Breuer" community, would dream of sharing institutions with the Neolog/Reform.
The question is, as R. Micha says, did RSRH realize before his p'tirah how he had succeeded, despite his bitterness that most of his followers did not follow him when it came to taking the Tritt.> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2007 11:11:50 -0500> From: micha at aishdas.org> To: areivim at sba2.com> CC: mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> Subject: Re: [Mesorah] "Vayigva Yitzchok vayomos vayeosef el amov"> > On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 12:50:04AM +1100, SBA wrote:> : RARakeffet blames the unpopularity of Austritt on this phenomenon. RSRH,> : later in life, lamented how few of his own kehillah actually bought in.> : The Gemeinde owned and controlled the cemetary. We are a very mobile> : society. But to people who have generations of ancestors buried in the> : same plot, the notion of leaving the community and therefore being buried> : elsewhere was a daunting prospect.> > : I disagree. > : After all the O (and austritt) communities in Hungary had the same> : situation. They went ahead and created hundreds of new O communities and> : cemeteries.> > Eventually. However, there is a memoire which records RSRH suddenly> switching topics in the middle of a speech to express his disappointment> at all the Berlin Jews who were willing to band together with koferim.> > The quote certainly painted a sad picture; that RSRH died thinking> he failed.> > Tir'u baTov!> -Micha> > -- > Micha Berger Like a bird, man can reach undreamed-of> micha at aishdas.org heights as long as he works his wings.> http://www.aishdas.org But if he relaxes them for but one minute,> Fax: (270) 514-1507 he plummets downward. - Rav Yisrael Salanter> _______________________________________________> Mesorah mailing list> Mesorah at lists.aishdas.org> http://lists.aishdas.org/listinfo.cgi/mesorah-aishdas.org
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