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<p>Do you have a reference for the heter for electric flush toilets?
Thanks!</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/15/2025 8:05 AM, mcohen--- via
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(one should) lchatchila build a below grade pump toilet
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be used on Shabbat?...</span></p>
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poskim are matir to use electric flush toilets bc of kavod
habrius<br>
(hospitals, etc)</span></p>
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should be the same. (electric use is only d'rabbanon.
ignoring CI)</span></p>
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it can be built.</span></p>
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then on shabbos..</span></p>
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its needed bc of kavod habrius, one can use it. <br>
if one has an alternative - dont use it</span></p>
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