<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large"><span id="gmail-docs-internal-guid-c4364626-7fff-f5f2-1a9d-3ef306931cd5"><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">It seems that everyone, even Ashkenasim who refrain from Kitniyos, may enjoy pop-corn, peanuts and peanut butter during Pesach.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:21pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">INTRODUCTION</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The Kitniyos ban was initiated when everyone was baking Matza at home throughout Pesach. This Matza was 10-12mm thick, soft and chewy, and was a stringency imposed to not make Matza 50-60mm thick, as they used to in earlier times. Such Matza was familiar to the ChChaim and other Poskim and they write about it without any suggestion of protest </span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">[MAvraham, ShA HaRav, ArHaShulchan and MBerruah [486:3] describe Matza as Rachos VeAsuYos KeSeFog - soft and spongy]</span><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Everyone was familiar with the need to complete the Matza manufacturing within ‘18 minutes’. The severe consequence of Chamets was universally known and respected. It would be unthinkable to have even the slightest concern that even the most uninformed part of the population would go anywhere near violating this prohibition.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">However, it was suspected that some may err when seeing knowledgeable Gd Fearing people cooking Kitniyot porridge, and draw the false conclusion that Chamets is only problem when baking with flour but there is no problem when cooking grains as a porridge and will therefore cook wheat or barley porridge during Pesach.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">This is the essence of the ShA HaRav. He makes no mention of baking, KVCh of flour, his Kitniyot discussion is limited to Tavshil, porridge.</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">=   =   =   =   =   =   =</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">ShA HaRav 453: 3&4 </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Al HaTorah <a href="https://library.alhatorah.org/?r1=Shulchan_Arukh_HaRav_Orach_Chayyim_453">https://library.alhatorah.org/?r1=Shulchan_Arukh_HaRav_Orach_Chayyim_453</a></span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">my translation.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Take note he speaks exclusively about Tavshil, he makes no mention of Kitniyot flour, he makes no reference to banning baked, non-Tavshil foods even though they have been combined with water.</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The custom in these locations is to refrain from eating a Tavshil [cooked recipe] of Kitniyos </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Not even on the last day of the Chag [when people eat Gebrochts]</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The reason for this is, there many who are not familiar with these intricate laws</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">And upon observing that during Pesach a Kitniyos Tavshil is being consumed </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Will erroneously permit cooking a similar Chamets Tavshil </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Since all year round Tavshillim are cooked from both wheat etc and also Kitniyos</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">It would seem therefore that porridge of any grain is permitted</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">[However] the custom only applies to those Kitniyos</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Whose [cooked recipe] Tavshil might be mistaken for a similar recipe made from wheat</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">As they are very similar as both are known as MaAseh KeDeiRah [porridge]</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">=   =   =   =   =   =   =</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The Levush [453] goes a bit further adding BAKING bread, but does not mention the word ‘flour’. Upon a close reading of the Levush it is clear he is not discussing regular bread made from flour, because his concern is not that the dough becomes Chamets but that the wheat kernel will be swollen i.e. Chamets. So he too is not discussing the bread we are familiar with but the same type of porridge which is not cooked but baked into some type of loaf</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">In these locations the custom is to not eat cooked Kitniyot dishes, </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Similarly mustard [they cooked mustard? See 462]</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Even though these cannot become Chamets</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">They are prohibited by decree to prevent confusion with the 5 grains that do become Chamets</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Since Kitniyot and the 5 grains are both cooked as a porridge </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The decree prevents people mistakenly thinking that cooking porridge is not Chamets [they were baking Matza throughout Pesach and knew that it must be baked quickly to prevent it becoming Chamets but people may think that cooking does not make Chamets]</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Furthermore, some make Kitniyos ‘bread’ which might be confused with other breads and will even eat bread that includes a kernel of wheat that became swollen and is Chamets  </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">And sometimes wheat grains are mixed amongst the Kitniyot and are very difficult to locate and remove, and these wheat grains that have become Chamets will be baked amongst the Kitnoyot grains and will not be Battel since they are baked during Pesach  </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">And that is the reason we strictly prohibit Kitniyot</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Nevertheless, we do not prohibit foods that Kitniyot inadvertently fell into</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">And we may light with Kitniyot oil [it is not banned as an unacceptable risk because the oil in the lamps often drips into the foods]</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">And no penalty is applied if oil does drip into the food. </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">And they may be kept in the home [unlike Chamets which we worry may be inadvertently consumed and must therefore be removed]</span></p><br><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">=   =   =   =   =   =   =</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">MBerrurah 453:6</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Al HaTorah </span><a href="https://shulchanarukh.alhatorah.org/Dual/Mishna_Berurah/Orach_Chayyim/453.5#m7e0n6" style="text-decoration-line:none"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;text-decoration-line:underline;vertical-align:baseline">https://shulchanarukh.alhatorah.org/Dual/Mishna_Berurah/Orach_Chayyim/453.5#m7e0n6</span></a><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"> </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Although the MBerrurah adds flour to the ban, he does not ban eating Kitniyot that have not been combined with water and baked or cooked i.e. peanuts, peanut butter, pop-corn, fresh peas and beans, and one may legitimately speculate about cooking Kitniyot that are not at risk of containing wheat, like tinned peas.   </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">The reason for this stringency is that Sometimes wheat is found amongst Kitniyot and they cannot be identified and removed with confidence, and will become Chamets when baked or cooked</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Furthermore, Kitniyot is often ground into flour and often baked as bread and many will confuse them and will end up being lenient both with bread and with flour </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Accordingly all breads and cooked recipes of Kitniyot are banned </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">and even cooking whole Kitniyot is banned </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">Besides there is a concern that there may be wheat amongst the Kitniyot</span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">=   =   =   =   =   =   </span></p><p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.32;text-indent:9pt"><span style="font-size:13pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">It seems that everyone, even Ashkenasim who refrain from Kitniyos, may enjoy pop-corn, peanuts and peanut butter during Pesach.</span></p></span><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline"></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>Best,<br><br>Meir G. Rabi</div><div><br></div><div>0423 207 837</div><div><font size="1">+61 423 207 837</font></div></div></div></div></div>