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At 06:44 AM 9/9/2021, R Akiva Miller wrote:<br>
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Someone wrote the following: (I will not say who wrote it, nor how
they<br>
know me. It's even possible that I'm the one who wrote it.)<br><br>
> A rabbi who I know, and who is involved on the highest level<br>
> with the kashrus for a very large organization, wrote to me<br>
> the following. He said that he had been in meat plants in [a<br>
> certain area] and elsewhere, while shechita was done under<br>
> supervision of [a certain hechsher]. He said, "That
hechsher<br>
> does not really care if the meat is kosher or not."<br><br>
I'd like to hear from other people. What is your opinion? Does the
above<br>
paragraph constitute a fair and proper warning for people to avoid
that<br>
hechsher, or is it lashon hara? Or might you describe it in some
other<br>
manner?<br>
</blockquote>The first issue to deal with is "Do people thank that
all hashgachas are equally reliable?" I think not. For
example, there is a brand of delicatessen sold nationally that is
not glatt that, as far as I know, no one who is strictly orthodox will
use. People feel that the hashgacha is not reliable. Is this loshon
hara? I think not. It is merely stating what most Orthodox
Jews consider to be the truth. <br><br>
On the other hand, many people living in Brooklyn will buy any product
sold in the "kosher supermarkets" without paying
attention to whose hashgacha the product has. Some are careful to
buy products only under certain hashgachas no matter where they are
sold.<br><br>
Many Chassidim will not buy a product that is only under the OU. They
will insist on a heimishe hashgacha. "The OU is not good
enough," they assert. Is this loshon hara?<br><br>
See Understanding the Reliability of Kosher Agencies at <br><br>
<a href="https://www.crcweb.org/understanding_reliab.php?fbclid=IwAR0OR_1r_o7qyhk7L3bmntRjnnBJWzLHOLlLTd4qryYPJlhpTOi3SXSwTmE" eudora="autourl">
https://www.crcweb.org/understanding_reliab.php?fbclid=IwAR0OR_1r_o7qyhk7L3bmntRjnnBJWzLHOLlLTd4qryYPJlhpTOi3SXSwTmE</a>
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From there<br><br>
In order to further clarify this sensitive subject, the cRc has
categorized the kosher agencies into three groups. The first two groups
are easily explainedrecommended and not<b> </b>recommended. The third
group is known as a <b>“</b>detail<b>”</b> agency. This agency’s products
are accepted on conditions, and they are investigated on a case-by-case
basis to determine if each final product is acceptable. <br><br>
Is the fact that some kashrus agencies are not recommended some sort of
indirect loshon hara? I think not.<br><br>
Some shuls in Brooklyn will allow only certain caterers in their
shuls. Is that fact that those caterers not allowed in their shuls
some sort of indirect loshon hara? I think not.<br><br>
Kashrus is a big business and the opportunity to earn money is always
tempting. Sadly, some rabbis are more concerned about the money end
than the kashrus end, and the result is unreliable
supervision. How is the public to know about these cases
unless they are publicized? Making such information public
is, IMO, not loshon hara, but a public service.<br><br>
YL<br><br>
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