<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 at 20:52, Micha Berger via Avodah <<a href="mailto:avodah@lists.aishdas.org">avodah@lists.aishdas.org</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
The point in common is that to the Rav's worldview, there couldn't<br>
be a minhag of mourning that didn't have the halachically established<br>
structure for aveilus. Such a practice would be "ceremony".<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So where, in the Rav's structure, does the minhag of refraining from meat and wine in the Nine Days fit in, considering that it appears only in aveilus for an onein, and not in shiva, sheloshim etc? Furthermore, some specifically recommend drinking wine during the shiva.</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div></div>