<br><br>On Monday, June 24, 2019, Micha Berger <<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 08:44:51PM +0300, Marty Bluke wrote:<br>
:> So I would think that if your vender has a card reader, there is<br>
:> no problem paying by card.<br>
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: I thought I made that clear. You definitely don’t violate the lav. The<br>
: question im asking is how can you be mekayem the aseh.<br>
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This asei is a chiyuv, not a mitzvah qiyumis. You can't just skip out<br>
on fulfilling the asei.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>You aren’t skipping out. You are creating a situation where there is no chiyuv aseh either. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Which is why it's hard to believe that all that discussion is of which<br>
cases are oveir "only" the asei. Even if the mention only mentions bal<br>
talin. How could it write "if you do X, or Y, or Z, or... you aren't<br>
over bal talin" without not mentioning in in any of those se'ifim that<br>
you're still not allowed to do any of these things anyway?<br>
<br></blockquote><div>My understanding is that the aseh and lav go together. Whenever there would be an issur of bal talin there is also an aseh of byomo teeten scharo. However, if you create a situation where the lav does not apply by for example sending the workers to the chenvani then the aseh likewise doesn’t apply. </div><div><br></div><div>My point was that by paying with a credit card you are creating a situation where you will not be mekayem the mitzva. There is no aveira/issur to do that, it’s just that we should want to be mekayem as many mitzva as we can especially mitzvos doraysa which there aren’t so many of. </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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