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<font size=3>At 02:43 PM 7/24/2018, Micha Berger wrote:<br><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">But I find it hard to believe
that was R Avigdor Miller's intent. So<br>
I was reading the answer with a fine tooth comb. And I noticed
this:<br><br>
The question, "What should a girl do if her chosson says that he
intends<br>
to learn forever?" isn't exactly the same as the answer. The
question is<br>
about the chasan's intent, the answer is about a chasan who is
determined,<br>
not matter what. R Avigdor Miller appears to be fine with the
aspiration.<br><br>
So, he isn't so much against kollel as against marrying a man who
says<br>
in advance he won't work even if things aren't working out
financially<br>
at kollel. But it doesn't look like he wrote against life-long
kollel<br>
where someone can find the financial backing (a kollel with a
generous<br>
stipend or a teaching job).<br><br>
I mean, would you really expect Rav Avigdor Miller's ideals to be
that<br>
far from contemporary Lakewood's?<br><br>
I say contemporary Lakewood, since I am not clear on Rav Aharon
Kotler's<br>
position. I am told kollel was only for a few years; the stipend was
shut<br>
off -- beshittah, not only for rationing -- after a 5 year or so
horizon.</blockquote><br>
Let me recall a conversation I had with R. Miller many years ago after we
had finished learning the Gemara in Kiddushin that says a father is
required to teach his son a skill so the son can earn a living.<br><br>
I asked R. Miller, "But we don't see today's yeshiva boys being
taught the wherewithal to earn a living. Why not?"'<br><br>
He replied, "Look at my shul. All of the fathers are
professionals, some doctors, some lawyers, some accountants, some
teachers, and some in business, but none of their sons will be able
to do this. What will happen to them? How will they support a
family?" <br><br>
Then he paused for a moment and said, "Look at my son Shmuel.
He has a wealthy father-in-law, so this will be good enough for him
and for his children. But what will happen to Shmuel's
grandchildren?" (R. Shmuel Miller has a large family.) <br><br>
He said all of this to me, and never said anything like it
publicly. But from this I have deduce that he was not in favor of
"Kollel forever" and felt that a husband was responsible to
support his family. Based on this I think he would not have
much disagreement with my article at
<a href="http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/the-obligation-to-support-a-family/2015/02/19" eudora="autourl">
http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/the-obligation-to-support-a-family/2015/02/19<br>
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</a>BTW, this was not the only thing he said to me personally and
never sad publicly. It was not uncommon for him to make public
statements which, when I privately "challenged" him about, he
modified.<br><br>
YL<br><br>
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