<div dir="ltr"><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">This year's incarnation of the G</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">ebrochts discussion attempts to discuss the Halacha and I think traverses territory not clearly enunciated in the past</span><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">.</span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Also I would not characterise this as Gebrochts-bashing; I dont believe anyone is troubled by those who say, "My Rebbe/My tradition is not to eat whatever it may be" the issue is that Gebrochts is promoted as Halachically legitimate and therefore preferred if not mandated. </span></div><div><br></div><div>The ShA HaRav declares firstly, that as far as the Halachah is concerned, there is no concern with Kneidlach during Pesach, see the link - <a href="http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25074&st=&pgnum=486">http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25074&st=&pgnum=486</a></div><div><br></div><div>He does however advise that it is a valid stringency </div><div>his first observation/proof however is that flour can be found on the surface of the Matzos</div><div>and later on says this is quite common</div><div><br></div><div>However, <br>A] we have not been able to verify this in all our years </div><div>B] no other Posek ever verified this claim</div><div>this claim supports the proposition that there remains flour within the finished Matza - but</div><div>C] there has never been a Posek who suggested that dough is not thoroughly kneaded leaving flour in the finished product</div><div>the only concern was that flour not be added AFTER the dough had already been made<br></div><div><div style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">D] even the published Teshuvah admits this, look at note 33 on the link provided - </div><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">It is universally accepted these days that flour is not added to a dough already made</div><div>and there is no Matza baking program that permits adding flour to the already made dough</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Best,<br><br>Meir G. Rabi</div><div><br></div><div>0423 207 837</div><div><font size="1">+61 423 207 837</font></div></div></div></div>
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