<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Micha Berger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org" target="_blank">micha@aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 06:27:13PM +0200, Simon Montagu via Avodah wrote:<br>
: > The answer, for people of European descent at least, is surprisingly<br>
<span class="gmail-">: > recent: 600 years. The common ancestor for every single person alive<br>
: > on the planet today, no matter where, lived approximately 3,600 years<br>
: > ago. That means Confucius, Nefertiti, Socrates, and any figure from<br>
: > ancient history that had children, is in some way your ancestor.<br>
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: Unless I'm missing something, those last two sentences are a huge non<br>
: sequitur.<br>
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</span>The author is just saying that the same model that giver the result<br>
of 600 years for Euopeans gives a result of 3,600 for all of humanity.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That's not the non sequitur. The non sequitur is going from "we have a common ancestor 3,600 years ago" to "Confucius and Socrates are your ancestors". Confucius and Socrates lived around 2500 years ago, and how does the author know that they had any living descendants?</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
: I have a slightly different take-away from the article: it says that<br>
<span class="gmail-">: everybody has a common ancestor who lived approximately 3,600 years ago.<br>
: Isn't that exactly what the Torah says?<br>
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</span>Well, really the model says that everyone who is alive today almost<br>
certainly (this is statistics, after all) descended from everyone who<br>
was alive 3,600 who has /any/ living descendents.</blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Not that there was one such ancestor.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I haven't read the model, but the article you linked to talks several times about "/a/ common ancestor", "/a/" person to whom all living people are related", etc.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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