<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>RAM and RMB have been arguing about whether aliens somewhere out there could have received a Revelation akin to ours and whether theirs would be one of shiv'im panim la-Torah.<br><br></div>My USD0.02c:<br><br></div>I believe that it is not unimportant that according to present theories of physics, we are constrained by how far we could ever travel. Even if we were to remain happy with slower than light travel, travelling at the phenomenal speeds necessary to get anywhere else in our own galaxy where aliens might live, i.e. in another star system with planets in the habitable zone, would use up phenomenal amounts of energy. Furthermore, the distances are so vast, that we would need enormous (what's the trendy word variant, ginormous?) amounts of time, and we still hardly would get anywhere.<br><br></div>Bottom line, there very well may exist intelligent aliens out there, but we are near 100% sure that we will never ever be able to meet them.<br clear="all"><div><div><div><div><br></div><div>Which leads me to the following observation: If there are aliens out there which we will one day meet, then we could not accept their *competing* Revelation. There is only one 'am hanivchar. We would indeed need to see them as a special kind of Noachides with a possible true revelation that is, however, subordinate to ours and can never contradict it.</div><div><br></div><div>If, however, we consider aliens whom we will never ever be able to meet, I see no reason why they couldn't have their own Revelation, with their own Torah, which, while it surely will agree in all iqarim, may nonetheless, through a variety of mechanisms suggested by mefarshim throughout the ages (including but not limited to the Ramban's Torah without spaces, and the expansion thereof by later mequbalim that the Heavenly Torah has 23 letters, of which we only see 22), be quite different from ours.</div><div><br></div><div>I do wonder though, can there be an alien civilization we will one day encounter in person, which has exactly the same Torah as we do. It would seem extremely improbable for them to have had an Avraham, Yitzchak & Yaakov, Shevatim & galut Mitzrayim, but hey, if this is predetermined in part, then why not? The question will then be, are they and us the same people (in the assumption that it is even physically possible to intermarry)? I consider this whole possibility even less likely than the one about meeting any aliens anywhere, so this is just an thought experiment.</div><div><br></div><div>Kol tuv,<br></div><br>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><span><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Arie Folger</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></div>
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