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<font size=3>At 02:01 PM 4/4/2017, Micha Berger wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at
12:52:45PM +0000, Professor L. Levine via Avodah wrote:<br>
: There is a shiur about this at<br>
:
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/lowndcz" eudora="autourl">
http://tinyurl.com/lowndcz</a><br><br>
So, I am listening to R' Aryeh Lebowitz's shiur on YUTorah at this
link.</font></blockquote><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>R' Avraham Pam said
on many occations that we have to be aware of<br>
those who spent all that time making the seder. (Typically the wives<br>
and mothers.) Sometimes we spend so much time on Magid, that we then<br>
rush through the beautiful se'udah they made to get to the last kos
on<br>
time. RAP thought that this bein adam lachaveiro issue is sufficient
to<br>
justify relying on the Avnei Neizer.<br>
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<font size=3>Rav Schwab in his shiur on the seder (to be found in Rav
Schwab on Prayer) suggests eating very little during the Seder
besides the required amounts of Matzah and Moror, so that one will
have room and appetite for the Afikoman and not have to "force"
oneself to eat it. I do not know what Rebbetzen Schwab prepared for
the Seder meal, but I assume it was not an elaborate meal based on
what she knew Rav Schwab would eat.<br><br>
I know that R. Miller would not allow his children or grandchildren to
read from the sheets that they came home with from Yeshiva. He told
them to save it for later, probably the next day.<br><br>
And since I mentioned all of the material that the kids come home with
from school, let me say that IMO the schools
"spoil" the seder. To me it is clear from the
Gemara in Pesachim that the children are not supposed to be
"primed" with all sorts of knowledge about the
Seder. The things we do are supposed to be new to them so that they
will ask questions. My children when they were young and my younger
grandchildren now know enough to conduct the Seder themselves!
There is nothing new for them.<br><br>
YL</font></body>
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