<div dir="ltr"><<<span style="font-size:12.8px">The question is when the Gemara offers these ukimtas does the Gemara really</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">think that this is what the Tanna meant? >></span><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Rav Michal Avraham has a lengthy article (in Hebrew) justifying uktimtot. If anyone wants the article let me know (<a href="mailto:eliturkel@gmail.com">eliturkel@gmail.com</a>)</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">His basic argument is based on a physics analogy. Any standard physics book will present Newton's law of motion. However, in practice this law never holds, there is friction, gravity and a host of other complications. A physicist would answer an ukimta - when does Newton's law hold in a vacuum where the gravitational forces are negligible etc. One could then argue that is a very far fetched ukimta.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">The answer is that Newton's law is a basic physical law (ignoring Einstein for now) . However, to apply it in practice one has to combine it with other physical laws like gravity, friction etc.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">The gemara is trying to do the same. The gemara is trying to set up some circumstance where no other laws affect the issue. This requires a far fetched ukimta to eliminate everything not pertinent. Of course in a practical case one would have to combine this basic law together with other laws to see the total effect just as one does in physics/engineering</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br clear="all"></span><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div></div>
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