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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>From: Akiva Miller via Avodah
<avodah@lists.aishdas.org><BR><BR>> Thus, if shops close at midnight
most nights of the week,<BR>> midnight would be the time of Tichleh Regel Min
Hashuk even<BR>> on Friday night and Motzai Shabbos.<BR>> But again I
don't really think "shuk" means literally "market"<BR>> here but more
generally, outside, out on the streets. [--TK]<BR><BR>As a matter of wording and
meaning, I accept this. But what Pirsumei Nisa<BR>would be
accomplished?<BR><BR>The Jews are at home eating the seudah on Friday night.
They are not on the<BR>streets as late as during the week. Why can't I simply
light before<BR>Shabbos, and Jews will see the neros while they come home from
shul, quite<BR>possibly during bein hashmashos? Why do they need to burn longer
than that?<BR><BR>Suppose .... the Jews are already home, but there are
still plenty of non-Jews in<BR>the streets. ....Is that going to
accomplish<BR>Pirsumei Nisa?<BR><BR>Akiva Miller</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>My understanding is that while you want people outside (Jews and goyim) to
see the Chanuka lights, pirsumei nisa is already accomplished if the family
inside the house sees the lights or even if just the person who lit them sees
them.</DIV>
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<DIV>The lights are best seen after dark. Bein hashemashos it's still
light outside. Our little lights competing with the sun, even the fading
sun -- don't do much. Me'at min ha'ohr docheh harbeh min hachoshech
-- does a lot, symbolically very meaningful. </DIV>
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<DIV>We notice miracles in times of darkness. When a person has a terrible
illness and miraculously recovers we say, " Baruch Hashem! What a
nes!" When a person is perfectly fine and nothing happens we don't say,
"What a miracle! He's walking and talking just great!" That
would be like a candle in the daytime. Everything's fine, who notices just
one more little thing that's also fine?</DIV>
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<DIV>The whole point of Chanuka, it seems to me, is that the lights are
symbolic; when things seemed darkest -- that's when we had miraculous
light.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>--Toby
Katz<BR>t613k@aol.com</STRONG></FONT><FONT lang=0 color=#ffffff size=2
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