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<pre wrap="">Somehow, my response to RMB's post was published in the previous day's Avodah (Vol. 34, Number 148 Message #2 (<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol34/v34n148.shtml#02">http://www.aishdas.org/avodah/vol34/v34n148.shtml#02</a>), which I stayed up to the wee hours to compose so that it would appear together with what RMB wrote, so as not to burden the reader with re-quotes. As it appeared, it must have been confusing to the reader, since he did not know to what I was responding. So I'm resubmitting my response again (with a few additions) with the points of RMB I'm addressing only briefly restated. </pre>
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<pre wrap="">RMB: ...We grow up in a culture where Aristotle's Logic is well embedded. The 3
Classical Laws of Thought appear self-evident. But to show that we should
neither accept 2 of them uncritically or even assume that Chazal agreed.
After all, I am asserting that the majority position among rishonim,
and the way of of us do halakhah today is in defiance of at least one of
these laws. Until I can establish that chazal didn't hold of such things,
I won't get very far.
More than that, I want to argue that our default position should be that
both opinions were given at Sinai, that neither side of a machloqes
is "wrong", despite the fact that they disagree. That machloqes is
about which correct answer is being made law. And that in fact, the
burden of proof is on the position RMHalbertal ascribes to the Rambam,
that machloqes is about which extrapolation from established halakhah
is correct.
Anyway, the three laws:
1- The Law of Identity:
Whatever is, is.
A = A.
2- Law of Non-Contradition
2 or more contradictory statements cannot both be true in the same
sense at the same time
not (A and not-A)...</pre>
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<pre wrap="">3- The Law of Excluded Middle
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<pre wrap=""> Everything must either be or not be
A or not-A</pre>
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<pre wrap=""><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap=""> The Maharal explains machloqes in these terms.
We have conflicting models of a Truth that can't fit in this world;
not a real contradiction.</pre></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Pashut peshat in Chazal is that machloqes is understood in these terms
as well.
"Eilu va'eilu divrei E-lokim, vehalakhah keBH."</pre>
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Yerushalmi Sanhedrin 4:2 : Had the Torah been given decided, we wouldn't have a leg to stand on."And Hashem spoke to Moshe." ... "Decide according to the majority...." So that the Torah be interpretable 49 ways tamei and 49 ways tahor.
And then there's the problem of explaining the Tanur shel Akhnai story
... if it was telling us the One True Pesaq, how could we possibly choose rabbim
over siyata diShmaya?
The Ran's justification of acharei rabim lehatos is similar. RMH's
translation:
... Moses learned them all by divine word with no resolution
every controversy in detail. Yet [God] also gave him a rule whose
truth is manifest, i.e., 'Favor the majority opinion'....as the
sages of that generation saw fit, for the decision had already been
delegated to them...
Again, the Divrei Elokim Chaim is described as going beyond the Law of
Contradiction. Majority opinion isn't advocated as a way of maximizing
the chance of getting the One Right Answer, but the given methodology
for picking <i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag">/</span>a<span class="moz-txt-tag">/</span></i> right answer. And Moshe was given all the Torah, even
derabbanans -- or at least divrei soferim (megillah is which?) -- and
we choose which version is halakhah.
One last note, as part of this laying-the-groundwork email:
I drew a distinction between finding Truth and finding Law. Realized that
in rabbinic idiom, this could be referred to as Emes vs Din. But it is
also -- perhaps more often -- phrased as Emes leAmito vs Emes leHoraah.
One needs to see what kind of emes a rishon is describing, and not just
rely on the use of the word emes.
Tir'u baTov!
-Micha</pre>
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He says that this is
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every Gemora's kushya, or at
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the Law of Non-Contradiction.
If <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Rabbeynu and on has been expected to
use to determine truth. <br>
</span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><br>
</span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Chazal taught the Sinaitic rule that
if two pesukim are in contradiction,
a <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">third one comes to qualify them, to
add conditions to one or both
of <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">them, so that they no longer are
said to be true in the same sense at the same time. </span></tt><tt>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt><tt><br>
</tt>
<p><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">RABBEYNU CHANANALE</span></tt></p>
<p><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Chagiga 3b tells us that despite the
fact that different groups of Chazal give contradictory
rulings, one should not despair of learning Torah, because </span></tt><tt><span
style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black; font-family: "Courier New";">''kulan Kel
echad </span>amran, Parness echad amran.'' As Meharsha
states, this is similar to the ''eilu v'eilu'' adage and
should be understood the same way. Despite what one may think
''pashut peshat'' is, Rabbeynuu Chananale tells us it means,
''Acquire a heart to hear eilu v'eilu, for all of them clarify
themseves to you which of them is clear halcha. For although
they seem as if they are arguing, they go on to vote and
decide and agree in the end (<i>sheh-kulan misbarerin lecha
b-ayzeh mayhen halacha berurah. She-af-al-pi sheh-nirrin kmo
cholkin, chozrin v-nimnin v-gomrin umaskimin b-sof</i>.)
Nothing about ''all sides being true.''</span></tt></p>
<p><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><br>
</span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">RASHI<o:p> <br>
</o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Despite what one may think ''pashut
peshat'' of ''kulan Kel echad <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">amran'' is, Rashi (Chagigah 3b)
explains it to mean ''you don't
have any <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">of the disputants bringing a proof
from any god's torah, only from
the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Torah of our G-d.'' and he explains
''Parness echad amran''to mean: You don't have anyone
bringing a proof from the words of a prophet who came to argue
against
Moshe <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Rabbeynu.'' That's the
characterization Rashi gives to the many <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">divergent opinions among the
chachamim. Not that they are ''all
true.'' All it means, as he goes on to explain, is ''Since
their hearts are [directed] to heaven [i.e. since they are
both making sincere attempts to understand the matter]...learn
and know the words of all [the disputants], and when you will
know to distinguish which one is valid (u'k'sheh-taya
lehavchin ay zeh yikasher), establish the halacha
accordingly.''<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">When Rashi (Kesubos 57a) explains
eilu v'eilu by saying
/<i>sometimes</i>/ this <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">consideration is appropriate and /<i>sometimes</i>/
that one is, because
the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">considerations change over according
to <i>/slight changes in </i><i><o:p></o:p></i></span></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><i>circumstances</i>/, he is working
with the logic that ''2 or more <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">contradictory statements cannot both
be true in the same sense at
the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">same time not (A and not-A).'' And
that is why he says that if
two <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Amoraim are arguing over what their
mentor held, one of them is
saying <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">''<i>sheker</i>,''and we /<i>cannot</i>/
apply ''eilu v'eilu divrei Elokim
Chaim'' to <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">such a situation.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">When TOSEFOS on the same daf says
that if two Amoraim are
arguing <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">over what their mentor held, one of
them ''<i>erred</i>,'' it is because
he is <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">working with the logic that ''2 or
more contradictory statements
cannot <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">both be true in the same sense at
the same time not (A and
not-A).''<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">When RITVA on the same daf quotes
Rashi as the correct peshat, it
is <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">because he too is working with the
Law of Non-Contradiction. (Yes,
the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">same Ritva who elsewhere quotes the
kabbalistic teaching about
Moshe <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">being told 49 considerations
pointing to opposite
conclusions,<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>but who <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">concludes that ''that is correct by
way of drash, but in the
derech <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">ha-emes there is ta'am v'sod
ba-davar.'' And pardon me, but I
cannot <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">accept that any one of us can
decipher what he means, either in
the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">beginning or the end.)<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">RAMBAN on Devarim 17:11 says that
one should not be afraid to
follow <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Beis Din Gadol even if one thinks
they erred, and that one must
accept <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">the interpretation of pesukim by the
Great Sanhedrin of
Yerushalayim <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">whether they received it from Moshe
from Hashem, or they
say it <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">is so according to the mashma-os or
intent of the mikreh. He is
working <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">with the assumption that the mikreh
has a <i>specific intent</i>, and one that is <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">subject to error.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">TOS RABBEYNU PERETZ (Eruvin
13b)begins by taking eilu v'eilu as
you do, <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">but cannot accept it because it is
illogical. "If something
is mutar it <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">cannnot be assur, and if something
is assur it cannot be mutar." He <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">too is working with the Law of
Non-Contradiction. He therefore concludes
<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">that Eilu V'eilu merely means that
one must follow the chachmei
hador. He evidently takes ''divrei Elokim Chaim'' in the sense
that both shittos of a machlokess are worthy
of serious consideration.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">SEFER HACHINUCH states that by
commanding us to follow the
majority <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">opinion, the Torah teaches us the
fact that the majority opinion
will <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">always conform to the truth more
than the minority. This puts him together with all these other
rishonim who hold that ''machloqes is about which
extrapolation from established halakhah is correct,'' and not
''which correct answer is being made law.'' <br>
</span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">[Regarding the Yerushalmi Sanhedrin
4:2 and
Sofrim 16:5): R' Yanai said: Had the Torah been given
decided, we
wouldn't have a leg to stand on. ..."Decide according to the
majority...." So
that the Torah be interpretable 49 ways tamei and 49 ways
tahor.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Why would we be at a disadvantage if
we
were explicitly given a pesak for each and every situation
that may
arise? Probably the thought is that it would be impossible to
carry all those details in our minds. Instead, we were given
klallim, the correct application through which each
situation could be halachically solved. This does not
contradict the fact
that there is a correct conclusion to reach for.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> And then there's the problem of
explaining the Tanur shel
Akhnai<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> story if we're seeking the One
True Pesaq. We got the siyata<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> diShmaya; if [the Bas Kol] was
telling us the One True Pesaq, how could
we<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> possibly choose rabbim over
siyata diShmaya?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">The objective is to uncover the
original intent, but Hashem in His
wisdom <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">imposed upon us the requirement that
our endeavor to do so must be
<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">restricted to what we can arrive at
through our own<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>minds'
use of the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">interpretive tools he gave us, and
not through any new
revelations. <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Heavenly revelations are no longer
valid for determining
halacha. What <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">then was the purpose of the there a
bas kol by tanur shel Achnai? Among the
explanations <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">given are two by Rav Nissim Gaon
(Brachos 19b). (1) The Bas
Kol <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">declaring [out of respect for R.
Eliezer] that the halacha follows R. Eliezer b'kall makom,
meant
it usually does, <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">but not necessarily here, or
something similar. (2) It was a test
for the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Chachamim to withstand the
temptation to transgress the principle
of <i>lo </i><i><o:p></o:p></i></span></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><i>bashamayim hee</i>, similar to
when Hashem grants a false prophet the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">ability to perform a miracle (or the
appearance of one).<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p>To support your take
that --<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<blockquote>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">>Divrei Elokim Chaim is
described as going beyond the Law<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> of Contradiction. Majority
opinion isn't advocated as a way
of<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> maximizing the chance of
getting the One Right Answer, but
the given<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> methodology for picking /a/
right answer.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
</blockquote>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">--you invoke the RAN, and cite RMH's
translation, which ends<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Yet [God] also gave him a<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> rule whose truth is manifest,
i.e., 'Favor the majority<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> opinion'....as the sages of
that generation saw fit, for the
decision<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">> had already been delegated to
them...<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">I feel frustrated because in my last
post I already pointed out
that <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">this is a mistranslation, and the
correct translation contradicts
the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">thesis.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">The last sentence reads, in Hebrew,<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">/<i>aval massar lo klall yivadda bo
ha-emmess</i>/.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes"></span>''<i>klall
yivadda
bo ha-emmess</i>'' does not translate<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>''a<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>rule whose truth is <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">manifest.'' The correct translation
is<o:p> <br>
</o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
<blockquote>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><span style="mso-spacerun:yes">B</span>ut
[God] gave him a rule
/<i>through which one knows the truth</i>/, 'Favor <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">the majority opinion'...<o:p></o:p><o:p>
<br>
</o:p></span></tt></p>
</blockquote>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">And the context removes all doubt
that the Ran explicitly denies
that he <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">is referring only to ''Emes leHoraah
vs Emes leAmito. To wit (and
this <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">is again something I already cited
last time but will repeat again):<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">In Drash 5 and 11 the Ran poses a
quandary:<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
<blockquote>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Since the words of those who
declare something tamei and those who
?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">declare it tahor are intrinsically
contradictory, it is impossible
for ?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">both sides of the dispute to be
conforming to the Truth. How then
could ?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">we say that they were both told to
Moses by G-d? Does G-d have any
?<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">doubts as to what the Truth is?!<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
</blockquote>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">And he then suggests the approach
that the sages only established
''Emes <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">leHoraah vs Emes leAmito." But he
then goes on to<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><i>reject
</i>it for the <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">overwhelming majority of cases:<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Now, this approach will satisfy
those who hold that there are no
reasons<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">behind the mitzvos at all and that
they all simply follow the<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">[arbitrary] Will of G-d .... But we
do not choose this approach. <i>We</i></span></tt><tt><i></i></tt></p>
<tt><i><br>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">believe that everything the Torah
warns us against is indeed<o:p></o:p></span></i></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><i>[intrinsically] harmful to us, </i><i>and
creates a negative imprint on
our</i><i><o:p></o:p></i></span></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">souls, even though we may not know
the mechanics behind that
process.<o:p></o:p></span></i></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Therefore, if the consensus of the
Sages is that something [that
is<o:p></o:p></span></i></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><o:p> </o:p></span></i></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";"><i>tamei is] tahor, so what?!</i>/
Won't it still harm us and produce its<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">natural effect, whatever it is?
...It would therefore seem that
we<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">preferably /<i>should</i>/ follow
the revelation of a prophet or Bas Kol,
which<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">would tell us the true nature of the
thing.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">The Torah took means to prevent a
misfortune that can always
arise, and<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">that is the divergence of opinions
and the creation of machlokess,<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;tab-stops:45.8pt 91.6pt
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">almost creating a situation of two
Torahs. The Torah's remedy for
this<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">ever-present danger was to hand over
to each generation's Sages
the<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">right to resolve halachic questions.
<i>/For in the majority of cases
this</i><i><o:p></o:p></i></span></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">will result in both a remedy [of
the problem of machlokess] and
the<o:p></o:p></span></i></tt></p>
<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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<tt><i>
</i></tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
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even though there is the extremely
remote and<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">practically absurd possibility that
they may make a mistake, the
Torah did<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">not concern itself with that remote
danger. The risk is worth
taking for<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">the benefit accrued.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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<tt><font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace">So the Ran's take
is that the halacha represents the <i>true nature</i> of
things.<br>
<br>
He holds that as a rule ''Divrei Elokim Chaim'' does /<i>not</i>/<br>
<br>
go beyond the Law of Contradiction. He /<i>does</i>/ advocate
majority opinion <br>
<br>
as a way of maximizing the chance of getting the One Right
Answer, and<br>
<br>
does /<i>not</i>/ merely advocate it as the given methodology
for picking /<i>a</i>/<br>
<br>
right answer</font></tt><tt><span style="font-size: 10pt; color:
black; font-family: "Courier New";">.<o:p></o:p></span></tt><tt>
</tt>
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<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Down to the Yam shel Shlomo, who
wrote (Introduction to Bava
Kamma) <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">''Never did two opposite predicates
for one subject escape the
lips of <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">Moshe'' (''shelo yatza hadavar mipi
Moshe l-olom lihyos shnei
hafachim <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">b-nosei echad''), and the acharonim
(who I listed in the original post), the various explanations
of
''eilu <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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style="font-size: 10pt; color: black; font-family:
"Courier New";">eilu'' avoid conflict with the Law
of Non-Contradiction and assume its necessity.<o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
<tt>
</tt>
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"Courier New";">So as far as the consensus of
rishonim is concerned, I'm making my
case <o:p></o:p></span></tt></p>
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