<div dir="ltr"><<<span style="font-size:12.8px">A more controversial point he made is that the total change of personality</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">: in teshuva is a special chessed of hashem and the regular person can't make</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">: such a change in a different situation.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">I don't get this. First he says that the same mechanicsm does work</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">the other way, then he says it can't -- that the self-change is</span><br style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:12.8px">only possible through a chessed associated with teshuvah? >></span><div><br></div><div>His position is that teshuva on an individual sin(s) is a normal process but it requires</div><div>the technicalities of teshuva (vidui etc). It works in only one direction, ie one can remove sins but not good deeds</div><div><br></div><div>The second teshuva is the change of the entire personality. RMA claim is that is only by a special gift from G-d. This works in both directions, since one is a new person it can remove both sins and good deeds (then its not really a gift). In this case one need not go through the technicalities of teshuva.</div><div><br></div><div>In passing he mentioned that halachic seforim tend to stress the first type of teshuva while machshava seforim stress the second type but in reality both exist<br><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div></div>
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