<div dir="ltr">R' Zev Sero asked:<div>"<span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">What makes you think that these ovdei AZ weren't also ovdei Hashem?  What</span></div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">makes you think they weren't boki beshas (or its then equivalent)?  These</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">were *not* untraditional Jews.  They were active Jews who also worshipped</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px">AZ, because they had a strong yetzer hara to do so."</span><div><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></font></div><div><font color="#000000" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12px">The Ramban that I quoted states explicitly that the majority of Jews completely forgot Torah and Mitzvos.<br></span></font><div><br style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px"></div></div></div>