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    <p>I don't believe the philosophers and scientists. A child can
      understand Intelligent Design. A child cannot - unless he believes
      in magic - understand how inanimate quarks proceed to become
      complex living creatures.</p>
    <p>The article to which you link is a classic "take it on faith from
      me because I'm smart and you're not" position paper.</p>
    <p>Evolution in the sense of abiogenesis cannot be tested either.
      Unless you count the discredited Miller-Ury experiment.</p>
    <p>I find the analogy to Yirmiyahu and Chananyah offensive, but
      that's just a tactic...</p>
    <p>KT,</p>
    <p>YGB<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/10/2016 7:43 AM, Eli Turkel wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr"><<<span style="font-size:12.8px">To not
          accept intelligent design is absurd. I am reasonably
          intelligent and cannot wrap my head around anyone rational
          denying it. >></span>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">and the philosophers and
            scientists on the other side say the identical thing. </span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">One complaint against ID is
            that it can't be tested and so is speculation.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Obviously neither side will
            convince the other.</span><br>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">see eg <a
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href="http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/what_you_can_do/why-intelligent-design-is-not.html">http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/what_you_can_do/why-intelligent-design-is-not.html</a></span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Brings me to inyane d-yoma</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Yirrmayahu haNavi
            prophesizes that Nevuchadnezzar and his son/grandson will
            rule over Judea.  Chananiah announces that</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">within 2 years G-d will
            destroy the Babylonian empire.</span></div>
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        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">I would imagine that
            Chananih looked like a very pious individual. How was a Jew
            at that time to decide between the two opposing</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">sides? Today with hindsight
            we know that Yirmiyahu was the true prophet and Chananiah
            was the navi sheker.</span></div>
        <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">However, at the time both
            sides seem to be legitimate<br>
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