<div dir="ltr">RET wrote:<br>>
3) I had a discussion with a rabbi recently about civil marriages. He felt<br>> that in many cases one should be machmir to require a get. I pointed out<br>> that a consequence of such a chumra is to declare many people mamzerim when<br>> they are products of a second civil marriage without a get. This affects<br>> many old Russian familes and also the question of Jewishness of anusim etc.<div><br></div><div>Actually, that simply doesn't reflect the most widespread position on civil marriage, which in reality is that we seek a get even in cases of divorcing couples that had not had chupa vekiddushin, but, and here is the key, but we do not seek such a get in cases where it would imply mamzerut. Of course, the rule isn't applied entirely directly. Rather, every single case is separately analyzed on its own merits. But we do our utmost to avoid mamzerut and that does not stand in contradiction with seeking a proper get in cases of most divorcing civil marriage only couples.<br></div><div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Arie Folger,<br>Recent blog posts on <a href="http://rabbifolger.net/" target="_blank">http://rabbifolger.net/</a><br><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:"Sans Serif";font-size:10pt;color:rgb(34,31,30)">* </span><a href="http://rabbifolger.net/2016/02/15/koscheres-geld-podcast/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Koscheres Geld (Podcast)</a></p><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:"Sans Serif";font-size:10pt;color:rgb(34,31,30)">* </span><a href="http://rabbifolger.net/2016/02/14/kennt-die-existenz-nur-den-chaos-gttliches-vorsehen-im-judischen-gedankengut-podcast/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Kennt die Existenz nur den Chaos? G”ttliches Vorsehen im Jüdischen Gedankengut (Podcast)</a></p><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:"Sans Serif";font-size:10pt;color:rgb(34,31,30)">* </span><a href="http://rabbifolger.net/2016/02/11/halacha-zum-wochenabschnitt-baruch-hu-uwaruch-schemo/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Halacha zum Wochenabschnitt: Baruch Hu uWaruch Schemo</a></p><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:"Sans Serif";font-size:10pt;color:rgb(34,31,30)">* </span><a href="http://rabbifolger.net/2016/02/09/is-there-order-to-the-world-providence-in-jewish-thought/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">Is there Order to the World? Providence in Jewish Thought</a></p><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><span style="font-family:"Sans Serif";font-size:10pt;color:rgb(34,31,30)">* </span><a href="http://rabbifolger.net/2016/02/08/what-is-modern-orthodoxy-from-a-radio-segment/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank">What is Modern Orthodoxy (from a radio segment)</a></p><p style="margin:0px;text-indent:0px"><a href="http://rabbifolger.net/2016/01/28/wir-missionieren-nicht-aber-warum-nicht/" rel="bookmark" target="_blank"></a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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