<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Following up upon my earlier post about the permissibility of saying
the <i>kaddish </i>of a <i>siyyum</i> at a dinner with mixed
seating.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">I spoke to RIETS RY last week and he said that we only require <i>mechitzah</i> in
a <i>Shul</i>, based upon the <i>Gemara</i> in <i>Succos</i>,
which requires separate seating at a <i>shul</i>.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">This is clear from the original textual source of mechitzah, the
Gemara in the fifth perek of Succos, that the basis of <i>mechitzah</i> is the <i>Bais
ha-Mikdash</i>. As our Synagogues are modeled after the Bais ha-Mikdash, we
apply the principals underlying the <i>Gemara</i>
in Succos to our Shuls. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">(Similarly, <i>Tosfos</i>
justifies the practice of bringing children to Shul using the model of <i>Hakhel</i>.) As the Kaddish for a Siyyum has
nothing do to with a Shul there is no need for separate seating.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">I also spoke to one of the Dayanim in our community he did not
even think that saying <i>kaddish</i> with mixed seating was an issue
as he thought that mixed seating was only an issue in a <i>Shul</i>. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Others told me the same (i.e. that only a <i>shul</i> requires
separation) in the name of Rav Schachter <i>shlit”a</i> . </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black">However, I saw Rav Herschel Schachter <i>shlit”a</i> at shacharis
this week so I asked him my question. He responded that it would be better if
they would have the <i>siyyum</i> before the
dinner. I asked why and he responded “<i>Davar
She’bekedushah</i>”.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black">I asked him so why do people recite <i>Kedushah</i> after a <i>siyyum</i>
with mixed seating. And he responded, “Nu, Nu”. (Which is a common response
from Rav Schachter to questions of that sort.) </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Interestingly enough the Gemara in Succos brings a “proof” for
separation of men and women from a non-</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black">“<i>Davar She’bekedushah</i>” the funeral in <i>Zecharyah</i>. </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black">Of course we are not discussing whether a particular practice is
good or bad or even “best practices”, but rather whether it is required or not.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px">







































</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="background-image:initial;background-repeat:initial"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;color:black">Yonatan </span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"></span></p></div></div>