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<font size=3>At 05:52 PM 4/20/2015, RN Toby Katz wrote:<br>
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I am grateful to RYL (Prof. Levine) for making this pamphlet
available to <br>
the public as a pdf. However I note that he is often highly
critical of <br>
the charedi world, and I believe that R' Hirsch would emphatically not
have <br>
agreed with him. He would have honored and cherished the
talmidei chachamim <br>
who devote their lives to limud haTorah, and would have educated
his <br>
balabatim to take pride in the zechus of financially supporting the
"black hat" <br>
yeshivos.</font></blockquote><br>
This is pure speculation on your part. I believe that RSRH would
have agreed with my views on this matter. Of course, this is
pure speculation on my part.<br><br>
He certainly would not have agreed with the idea of not working to
support one's family. See my article<br><br>
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"<a href="http://www.jewishpress.com/indepth/front-page/the-obligation-to-support-a-family/2015/02/18/0/?print">
The Obligation to Support a Family</a>" <b>The Jewish
Press,</b> February 18, 2015, front page. <br><br>
</font>and the extensive quotes I have there from the writings of Rav Dr.
Joseph Breuer, ZT"L, who was, of course, a
grandson of RSRH and the foremost expositor of TIDE during his life time.
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I would also note that R' Hirsch would certainly not have shared RYL's
dour <br>
view of present-day Eretz Yisrael. True, all the flaws and
failings of <br>
Zionism are abundantly on display in the modern Medinah. But at the
same <br>
time, it takes an almost willful blindness not to see the
incredible miracles <br>
that have been taking place there over the past sixty years or so.
Not the <br>
least of these miracles is a flourishing of Torah scholarship,
be'eichus <br>
uvekamus, the likes of which has not been seen since the churban
Bayis <br>
Sheni. We owe at least a small measure of gratitude to the
Zionist government <br>
that helps provide the infrastructure for the Torah community to
flourish, <br>
and a huge measure of gratitude to the Ribono Shel Olam for
allowing us to <br>
live in a time in which the beginning of kibbutz galuyos is taking
place <br>
before our eyes. The sight of thousands of men, young and old, from
all <br>
corners of the world, streaming into the Mirrer Yeshiva each day, gives
us a <br>
little foretaste of what it will be like to visit the Third Bais
Hamikdash.</font></blockquote><br>
Again, I have to disagree. I suggest you read Rav Breuer's
writings about EY in the book A Unique Perspective under the heading
Eretz Yisroel.<br><br>
The following are some excerpts from his essay The State of
Israel.<br><br>
<font face="Arial, Helvetica" size=3>The proclamation of a Jewish state
would bring great joy to all<br>
the members of our people, if conditions were such that we could<br>
feel justified to call it a Kiddush Hashem. It pains us to say, and
we<br>
have no illusions, that for the time being this is not the case. For<br>
every Torah-true Jew the word Kiddush Hashem is his utmost concern,<br>
while Chillul Hashem leaves him trembling. Thus the establishment<br>
of a Jewish state will fill him with misgivings and alarm.<br><br>
Anyone who is imbued with the eternal truth and validity of<br>
God’s Torah will have to be aware that a state on God’s holy soil<br>
will only be able to endure if the conditions that God has set down<br>
for a Jewish state on His holy soil are met. These conditions apply<br>
to the Jewish entity and to the life of every individual who
declares<br>
himself a member of God’s People.<br><br>
</font>Again, please read Rav Breuer's essays on Eretz Yisroel in
this book.<br><br>
Also, please read Rav Shimon Schwab's essay Zion or Zionism that I
have placed at
<a href="http://web.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/zion_or_zionism.pdf" eudora="autourl">
http://web.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/zion_or_zionism.pdf</a>
Rav Schwab was most certainly a proponent of TIDE and the approach of
RSRH. <br><br>
YL<br><br>
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