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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>From: "Prof. Levine via Avodah"
<avodah@lists.aishdas.org><BR><BR>The following is taken in part from Rav
Shimon Schwab's Essay The <BR>Legacy of RSRH, ZT"L that appears in Selected
Writings pages 88 -93.<BR><BR>Rav Hirsch is usually accepted as the exponent of
the<BR>Torah im Derech Eretz philosophy. This principle is<BR>explained by his
grandson, Dr. Isaac Breuer, as follows:<BR><BR>"He was strictly opposed to
compromise or<BR>reconciliation, or even a synthesis: he demanded full
and<BR>uncompromising rulership of the Torah. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>[snip]<BR>There are two schools of thought and they are
both<BR>legitimate. One is "Torah Only" and the other is Torah im<BR>Derech
Eretz. All Torah-conscious Jews work for the same<BR>goal. There are various
methods and various avenues of<BR>approach. They all lead up to the ultimate end
of:<BR><BR>"Yisgadal v'yisgadash Shmei rabah"</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>See the wonderful pamphlet by R' Shimon Schwab, "Eilu ve'Eilu," explaining
the broad outlines of the differences between these two hashkafos, "Torah
im Derech Eretz" and so-called "Torah-only." I try to re-read this 48-page
pamphlet every year.</DIV>
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<DIV><A title=http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/these_and_those.pdf
href="http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/these_and_those.pdf">http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/these_and_those.pdf</A></DIV>
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<DIV>I am grateful to RYL (Prof. Levine) for making this pamphlet available
to the public as a pdf. However I note that he is often highly critical of
the charedi world, and I believe that R' Hirsch would emphatically not have
agreed with him. He would have honored and cherished the talmidei
chachamim who devote their lives to limud haTorah, and would have educated his
balabatim to take pride in the zechus of financially supporting the "black hat"
yeshivos.</DIV>
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<DIV>In the so-called "Torah-only" world they may have disdain for balabatim,
but we who believe in TIDE can respect and honor that world of sustained and
focused Torah study without internalizing an inferior self-image. We
believe in Yisachar and Zevulun even if Yisachar lacks proper respect for
Zevulun. We believe in twelve shevatim, we believe in twelve paths through
the sea. And we believe that without the shevet of full-time lomdei Torah
and talmidei chachamim, the rest of Klal Yisrael would have no
kiyum.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would also note that R' Hirsch would certainly not have shared RYL's dour
view of present-day Eretz Yisrael. True, all the flaws and failings of
Zionism are abundantly on display in the modern Medinah. But at the same
time, it takes an almost willful blindness not to see the incredible
miracles that have been taking place there over the past sixty years or so. Not
the least of these miracles is a flourishing of Torah scholarship, be'eichus
uvekamus, the likes of which has not been seen since the churban Bayis
Sheni. We owe at least a small measure of gratitude to the Zionist
government that helps provide the infrastructure for the Torah community to
flourish, and a huge measure of gratitude to the Ribono Shel Olam for allowing
us to live in a time in which the beginning of kibbutz galuyos is taking place
before our eyes. The sight of thousands of men, young and old, from all
corners of the world, streaming into the Mirrer Yeshiva each day, gives us
a little foretaste of what it will be like to visit the Third Bais
Hamikdash.</DIV>
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<DIV>Again, I urge everyone to read Rav Schwab's wonderful pamphlet, "Eilu
ve'Eilu." </DIV>
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<DIV><A title=http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/these_and_those.pdf
href="http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/these_and_those.pdf">http://www.stevens.edu/golem/llevine/rsrh/these_and_those.pdf</A></DIV>
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