<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Prof. Levine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:llevine@stevens.edu" target="_blank">llevine@stevens.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I relied on the Star-K for this assertion. See
<a href="http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-passover-chometzguideb4.htm" target="_blank">
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-passover-chometzguideb4.htm</a>
This is not something that I made up on my own.<br><br></div></blockquote><div>... </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>There is more to this. See
<a href="http://kosherpoint.com/pesach/480" target="_blank">
http://kosherpoint.com/pesach/480</a><br><br><font size="3">...<br>
</font>Also see the 3 opinions at the end of this web page. The
third opinion is<br><br>
<h5><b>3) Flour is not chametz at all and may even be kept at
home</b></h5>
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<dd><font size="3">In practice, nowadays, even though regular flour which
is not kosher for Passover, should not be allowed for matza baking, it is
permissible to keep the flour at home during Pesach without selling to a
non-Jew… – -
<a href="http://www.tzohar.org.il/?content=%D7%94%D7%A7%D7%9E%D7%97-%D7%91%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%95-%D7%95%D7%9B%D7%A9%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%AA%D7%95-%D7%9C%D7%A4%D7%A1%D7%97" target="_blank">
Rabbi Moshe Bigel – Tzohar</a></font></dd></dl></div></blockquote><div>Exactly, there are 3 opinions, 2 of them requiring flour to be sold, with one of them being that washed flour is Chametz gamur. Given the fact that there is an opinion that flour is chametz gamur, and an additional opinion that it should be sold, why are you surprised that many people think that flour is chometz?</div>
<div> </div><div>... </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><dl><dd>Either the sale is valid or it is not. If it is not valid,
then what is one doing when one sells one's chometz. And
also, if it is not valid, then why do many rabbonim today
perform the sale of chometz gomer for their congregants. If the
sale is not valid, then this is a real ha'arama!<br></dd></dl></div></blockquote><div>Life and halacha are not black and white. Many of those who don't sell real chometz hold that since there are acharonim who hold that you are not allowed to sell real chometz we should be machmir for that opinion. It doesn't mean that when push comes to shove we pasken like that opinion, rather, it is a chumra that they have accepted on themselves given their situation (a private person with little real chometz and little loss or hardship by not selling their chometz). However, someone who owns a store that sells chometz will most probably not adopt this chumra give the loss of a large amount of money and business that this chumra will entail. This is how the halachic process works, many times in shulchan aruch we find hefsed meruba coming into play in terms of deciding whether to be machmir or not. </div>
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One more time. Either the sale is valid or not for *everyone*
both store owners and private individuals.<br></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>You completely missed the point. An individual can be machmir for himself and not rely on the sale. However, he should not be machmir at the expense of other people especially if it will cost them a lot of money. </div>
<div><br></div><div>In addition, the fact is that that even those acharonim who hold that you are not allowed to sell real chometz don't say that the sale is not valid. Rather, they claim that since the sale is a ha'arama on a d'oraysa you aren't allowed to do it. However, if you violate the issur the sale would be valid. Therefore, people are machmir on themselves not to violate the issur according to these acharonim. However, after Pesach, the sale was certainly valid and therefore the sold chometz is permitted.</div>
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