<div dir="ltr"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">: >There used to be peanut oil, kosher for Pesach. I mean, Rav Moshe<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">: >said that peanuts are absolutely, 100%, not kitniyot in any way,<br></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">: >shape or form.<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">:<br></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">: So? Not everyone agrees with him...</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I think this framing is flawed. Rather, qitniyos is minhag, and thus<br></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">regional. RMF reported the minhag in the area around Luban, it needn't<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">be the same minhag as reported by the Rama.</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">There are numerous historically attested to versions of qitniyos.<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Some include mei qitniyos, and of them not all include shemen qitniyos.<br></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Some include anything where the same logic would spply -- although not<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">potatos she'ein hatzibur yekholim laamod ba. Others kept the list to<br></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">specific items. Since they are all minhagim of different communities,<br>
</span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I don't see how one can be asserted as more right, nor more "iffy",<br></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">than another.</span></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div>Is the problem here that the Ashkenazi world has been so shaken up by migration and standardization that people don't remember their minhag avos to any finer resolution than "I'm Ashkenazi?" Or they remember their ancestry, but the details of particular countries' minhagim are lost, so people can't make principled decisions about how to practice?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Standardization in the kashrut industry seems to push the set of available products in the more machmir direction as food manufacturers try to appeal to the largest possible audience.</div></div>