<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span>I am told that Rav Schwab was heavily influenced by the Lithuanian type Yeshivos he attended. So much so that he had accepted the Charedi view that RSRH only meant TIDE as a B'Dieved (as explained to him by R' Baruch Ber Leibowitz, whiom he consulted about it). He later rejected that view and returned to the view that RSRH meant it as a L'Chatchila.</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span>No doubt, R' Schwab was still heavily influenced by his yeas in the Litvishe Yeshivos and retained some of that Hashkafa, which probably explains his views about Jewish history. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>I think that's even more true about today's German/Jewish observant community. Almost all of them attend Lithuanian type Yeshivos and the only thing that remains of their RSRH's TIDE are the Minhagim. The philosophy of classic TIDE is practically gone. IIUC. </span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px;
font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>This attitie is reinforced by the current successor to R' Schwab, Rabbi Zechariah Gelley. He asserted that TIDE is no longer a viable option in our day, because we cannot practice it properly without RSRH's guidance (or some other excuse like that). He said so during the celebration of RSRH's 200 birthday (IIRC) after Jonathan Rosenblum's speech extolling classic Hirschian TIDE (and probably embarrassing JR in the process).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;
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Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, March 21, 2014 5:12 AM, Prof. Levine <llevine@stevens.edu> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv5378593732">
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<font size="3">At 04:09 PM 3/20/2014, R. Ben Waxman wrote on
Areivim:<br><br>
<blockquote type="cite" class="yiv5378593732cite" cite="">Contrast this to a classic from
Rabbi Schwab:<br><br>
What ethical purpose is served by preserving a realistic historic
picture? Nothing but the satisfaction of curiosity. We should tell
ourselves and our children the good memories of the good people, their
unshakable faith, their staunch defense of tradition, their life of
truth, their impeccable honesty, their boundless charity and their great
reverence for Torah and Torah sages. What is gained by pointing out their
inadequacies and their contradictions?... <br><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="yiv5378593732cite" cite="">
Selected Writings (Lakewood, 1988)</blockquote><br>
I knew Rabbi Schwab, ZT"L, personally. He was, IMO, one
of the great rabbonim of the last century. <br><br>
That being said, I have never understood his attitude toward Jewish
history that is espoused in what you have quoted. I find it all the
more difficult to understand in light of the fact that RSRH makes it
clear that the Torah points out the "shortcomings" of the Avos
and Emos and says that this is a plus, and the fact the Rav Schwab was a
Hirschian... </font></div></div><br></div> </blockquote> </div> </div> </div> </div></body></html>