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<blockquote style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><<But even for those who disagree with Rashi regarding Rabbi Yehuda's reason<br>for prohibiting - we are not talking about a miut of cases that he<br>
prohibits, but a miut of cases that he allows, ie the only two that are<br>identified as being in this category are lulav and sukkah. And even lulav<br>only if the woman and the lulav happen to be in the same place at the time<br>
without prior arrangement - clearly according to Rabbi Yehuda the lulav<br>cannot be brought through reshus harabbim or even a karmalis for her sake<br>(ie a man cannot take the lulav home if the sole purpose of doing so is to<br>
bring it to his wife). And the Shaagas Areyeh holds (and certainly in this<br>regard his logic would seem sound) that if we followed Rabbi Yehuda the<br>gezera lest one carry in reshus harabbim would extend to women and lulavim<br>
on Yom Tov and that therefore women would be prevented by rabbinic gezera<br>from performing the mitzvah of lulav in exactly the same way that men are so<br>prevented on shabbas. Which leaves sukkah (which is a totally different<br>
story, as perhaps it might even be necessary for women to be in the sukkah<br>for married men to fulfil their obligation of tashvu k'ain taduru properly,<br>independent of anything to do with the woman's own mitzvah).>><br>
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<div>I had meant to add to this in the course of that posting, but then forgot at the critical moment, that even with sukkah there are tainas. After all, the Rema states with regard to women and tzitzis in Shulchan Aruch Orech Chaim siman 17 si'if 2:</div>
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<div><i><span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">And in any event if they want to wrap themselves and bless on it they have permission like with other positive mitzvos dependent upon time (Tosphos,
and the Rosh and the Ran perek 2 of Rosh Hashana and the first perek in
Kiddushin) but it looks like yehora, and therefore there is not to them to
dress in tzitzis since it is not an obligation of a man (Agor siman 27) the explanation
being that he is not obligated to buy for himself a tallis in order to be
obligated in tzitis.<span style> </span>And below in siman
19 itsays that when he [happens to] have a tallis with four corners (and he
dresses).</span></i></div>
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<div>That is, it looks like yehura for a woman to take on a mitzvah that even a man is not obligated to do (ie has no chiyuv to do), but where the requirement is only if he happens to have a four cornered garment that he wants to wear, then and only then does he need to put on tzitzis.<br>
</div><div><br>But the same is true after the first night, for men eating in the sukkah. A man can survive on apples and tuna-fish and eat outside of the sukkah for the entirety of sukkos. Using the logic of the Agor (as quoted in the Rema) therefore, It would seem to be yehura for a woman to eat in the sukkah any time other than the first night.</div>
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<div>Note this is not my chiddush, it is in the Sde Chemed in <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:115%;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Marechet hamem klal 136</span>.</div>
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<div>Regards</div>
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<div>Chana</div></div>
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