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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>R’ SZN:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>>>>One of the things missing from much of this discussion so far is the<br>concept of duty [ comment on areivim about draft issues] <br><br><br>-- it has yet to be established that<br><br> 1] there is a religious chiyuv to a concept of duty to country<br><br>2] that that concept is believed by charedi hashkafa/halacha<br><br> 3] that even if there was such a chiyuv that it would apply to a<br> 'secular jewish state'<br><span style='color:#1F497D'><SNIP></span><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>----------------------- <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The argument I’ve seen (most recently here on Avodah, IIRC) is that Israel is in middle of a milchemes mitzvah. I haven’t seen a good argument towards that end, though.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>KT,<br>MYG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>